1 00:02:16,670 --> 00:02:13,670 bespoke radio 2 00:02:18,229 --> 00:02:16,680 for the masses headline edition july 8th 3 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:18,239 1947. 4 00:02:28,949 --> 00:02:20,000 the army air force's has announced that 5 00:02:34,150 --> 00:02:32,070 i occasionally think how quickly our 6 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:34,160 differences worldwide 7 00:02:37,910 --> 00:02:37,200 would vanish if we were facing an alien 8 00:02:44,390 --> 00:02:37,920 threat 9 00:02:48,309 --> 00:02:47,110 this is fade to black with your host 10 00:02:51,990 --> 00:02:48,319 jimmy church 11 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:52,000 on the game changer radio network 12 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,830 i need your help to get to the year 13 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,869 1985. 14 00:03:17,990 --> 00:03:08,869 you're listening to fate to flag with 15 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:18,000 jimmy church on the game changer network 16 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,270 fade to black 17 00:03:36,309 --> 00:03:31,350 bespoke radio for 18 00:03:39,350 --> 00:03:36,319 the masses 19 00:03:42,710 --> 00:03:39,360 yeah man how you doing 20 00:03:51,630 --> 00:03:42,720 today is tuesday wednesday 21 00:03:59,270 --> 00:03:55,789 232 days into the new year only 22 00:04:01,830 --> 00:03:59,280 134 days left we are live 23 00:04:03,030 --> 00:04:01,840 from a bunker somewhere in the middle of 24 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:03,040 beautiful downtown 25 00:04:10,229 --> 00:04:08,630 and i would like to welcome everybody 26 00:04:12,830 --> 00:04:10,239 listening all around the world all 27 00:04:15,030 --> 00:04:12,840 across the united 28 00:04:17,349 --> 00:04:15,040 states 29 00:04:19,349 --> 00:04:17,359 hither and tither to and fro back and 30 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:19,359 forth up and down east and west north 31 00:04:23,030 --> 00:04:20,000 and south 32 00:04:25,749 --> 00:04:23,040 far and near 33 00:04:28,150 --> 00:04:25,759 this is fade to black for kjcr the game 34 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:28,160 changer network 35 00:04:34,870 --> 00:04:32,639 and kg r a the planets 36 00:04:36,950 --> 00:04:34,880 i'm heroes jimmy church what is cracking 37 00:04:40,469 --> 00:04:36,960 everybody how you doing 38 00:04:44,950 --> 00:04:42,469 that's right it's wednesday yesterday 39 00:04:46,870 --> 00:04:44,960 was tuesday last night was fader night 40 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:46,880 supposed to be thursday thursday's 41 00:04:51,990 --> 00:04:48,320 tomorrow 42 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:52,000 more on thursday in just a minute 43 00:04:58,150 --> 00:04:55,440 better buckle up kids 44 00:04:59,990 --> 00:04:58,160 oh yeah well okay let's start with 45 00:05:04,790 --> 00:05:00,000 tonight 46 00:05:07,670 --> 00:05:04,800 is here 47 00:05:08,230 --> 00:05:07,680 he's got an amazing story an amazing 48 00:05:10,629 --> 00:05:08,240 story 49 00:05:12,390 --> 00:05:10,639 so sit back and get ready for that 50 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:12,400 that'll be at the bottom of the hour 51 00:05:16,790 --> 00:05:13,360 tomorrow night 52 00:05:19,990 --> 00:05:16,800 thursday it's linda multan howe 53 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:20,000 right here on fade to black and since we 54 00:05:23,749 --> 00:05:22,000 did you know thursday is fader night 55 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:23,759 that's tomorrow that's open lines but we 56 00:05:28,310 --> 00:05:24,000 did 57 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:28,320 open lines yesterday instead of tomorrow 58 00:05:33,510 --> 00:05:31,360 right and i was going to do 59 00:05:35,350 --> 00:05:33,520 open lines with linda and surprise her 60 00:05:36,390 --> 00:05:35,360 with that but since i did open lines 61 00:05:39,270 --> 00:05:36,400 last night 62 00:05:40,550 --> 00:05:39,280 i'm not going to do open lines tomorrow 63 00:05:49,270 --> 00:05:40,560 ha 64 00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:49,280 dang it take my toys 65 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:51,199 out of the sandbox and go home i'll do 66 00:05:55,350 --> 00:05:52,800 it i will do 67 00:05:55,830 --> 00:05:55,360 it yeah tomorrow night linda moulton 68 00:05:59,189 --> 00:05:55,840 howe 69 00:06:02,469 --> 00:05:59,199 cannot wait tonight will carol and uh 70 00:06:05,350 --> 00:06:02,479 again i want to let all of you know 71 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:05,360 uh that our h factor the new series is 72 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:06,960 uh 73 00:06:11,430 --> 00:06:10,080 it's coming it's coming go to the game 74 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:11,440 changer network youtube channel 75 00:06:15,189 --> 00:06:12,800 subscribe 76 00:06:17,350 --> 00:06:15,199 and uh click on notifications get ready 77 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:17,360 the world premiere for the h factor is 78 00:06:24,950 --> 00:06:21,600 is is it's it's nearly here 79 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:24,960 it's it looks good too it's nearly here 80 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:26,479 it's gonna be worth the wait 81 00:06:33,510 --> 00:06:29,520 all right so do that and 82 00:06:37,029 --> 00:06:33,520 also our two new sponsors uh here 83 00:06:40,950 --> 00:06:37,039 at fade to black uh carolyn ford 84 00:06:42,790 --> 00:06:40,960 and her amazing crystal skulls um 85 00:06:44,950 --> 00:06:42,800 any of you out there that have been 86 00:06:46,390 --> 00:06:44,960 lucky enough uh to 87 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:46,400 to come over and have dinner at the 88 00:06:51,589 --> 00:06:48,960 house you have seen our crystal skull 89 00:06:54,790 --> 00:06:51,599 collection that's all from carolyn ford 90 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:54,800 and analisa lisa if you're listening 91 00:06:58,629 --> 00:06:56,800 you're responsible for all of this 92 00:07:02,230 --> 00:06:58,639 madness 93 00:07:05,110 --> 00:07:02,240 anyway carolyn ford and we have 94 00:07:06,309 --> 00:07:05,120 uh two different conferences over the 95 00:07:08,309 --> 00:07:06,319 years we have 96 00:07:09,430 --> 00:07:08,319 we have brought a few skulls with us 97 00:07:12,710 --> 00:07:09,440 like vader right 98 00:07:15,029 --> 00:07:12,720 vader the fader he's huge he's he's just 99 00:07:16,469 --> 00:07:15,039 ginormous those are all from carolyn 100 00:07:18,390 --> 00:07:16,479 ford and 101 00:07:19,670 --> 00:07:18,400 you can go right now and get your very 102 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:19,680 own crystal skull 103 00:07:24,309 --> 00:07:21,680 if you go to carolyn's website which is 104 00:07:26,550 --> 00:07:24,319 einstein the crystalskull.com 105 00:07:27,990 --> 00:07:26,560 you can go to the store page and go and 106 00:07:31,430 --> 00:07:28,000 check out 107 00:07:35,350 --> 00:07:31,440 her her skulls they are absolutely 108 00:07:36,629 --> 00:07:35,360 the best okay the best the best 109 00:07:38,629 --> 00:07:36,639 everybody wonders where do you go what 110 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:38,639 do you do you know and 111 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:40,639 and who are the artists and how are 112 00:07:45,029 --> 00:07:42,080 these done and think 113 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:45,039 carolyn ford that's it and right now use 114 00:07:49,510 --> 00:07:48,240 the promo code jimmy j-i-m-m-y 115 00:07:52,710 --> 00:07:49,520 when you check out you're going to get 116 00:07:55,749 --> 00:07:52,720 10 off of your crystal skull order today 117 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:55,759 so go and do that also coming up next 118 00:08:00,390 --> 00:07:56,720 week which is 119 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:00,400 february february friday 120 00:08:06,150 --> 00:08:03,680 friday august 28th is 121 00:08:08,950 --> 00:08:06,160 the dark zone network's next event the 122 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:08,960 lizzie borden murder house live 123 00:08:14,390 --> 00:08:12,000 it's a four-day 24-hour day 124 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:14,400 live stream 24 hours a day you get to 125 00:08:19,189 --> 00:08:15,840 pick the cameras 126 00:08:22,309 --> 00:08:19,199 go and check it out and that is 127 00:08:22,950 --> 00:08:22,319 uh the only way to do it very very very 128 00:08:26,150 --> 00:08:22,960 cool 129 00:08:28,710 --> 00:08:26,160 august 28 through august 31st and all 130 00:08:30,869 --> 00:08:28,720 you have to do is go to thedarkzone.tv 131 00:08:32,870 --> 00:08:30,879 to check everything out and next 132 00:08:35,190 --> 00:08:32,880 thursday august 27th 133 00:08:37,709 --> 00:08:35,200 they will have a free preview for you to 134 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:37,719 go and check out 135 00:08:41,029 --> 00:08:39,760 thedarkzone.tv you can follow me on 136 00:08:44,949 --> 00:08:41,039 twitter 137 00:08:48,070 --> 00:08:44,959 at j church radio all right start your 138 00:08:51,110 --> 00:08:48,080 social media journey with me 139 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:51,120 right there at j church radio okay and 140 00:08:54,949 --> 00:08:53,440 email is jimmy jimmychurchradio.com we 141 00:08:58,150 --> 00:08:54,959 have two chat rooms open one over at 142 00:09:00,949 --> 00:08:58,160 spreaker one over at kgra the planet 143 00:09:02,150 --> 00:09:00,959 and the sandbox on twitter is hashtag 144 00:09:03,750 --> 00:09:02,160 f2b 145 00:09:05,990 --> 00:09:03,760 you want to reach out to me on twitter 146 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:06,000 it's very easy at jchurchradio hashtag 147 00:09:08,949 --> 00:09:06,640 f2b 148 00:09:11,070 --> 00:09:08,959 it'll pop up right in front of me 149 00:09:13,910 --> 00:09:11,080 twitter is always live 150 00:09:16,150 --> 00:09:13,920 f2bq is fade to black questions you're 151 00:09:17,670 --> 00:09:16,160 looking at me right now if you are 152 00:09:20,070 --> 00:09:17,680 and not listening to my voice but you're 153 00:09:23,990 --> 00:09:20,080 watching the bunker cam 154 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:24,000 right right here hashtag f2b 155 00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:27,200 right in my face hashtag f2bq right 156 00:09:30,630 --> 00:09:29,279 here right in front of me and then me 157 00:09:32,389 --> 00:09:30,640 right here 158 00:09:35,110 --> 00:09:32,399 and then if you want to reach out to 159 00:09:38,470 --> 00:09:35,120 rita she's right here so i've got four 160 00:09:41,509 --> 00:09:38,480 twitter feeds just clicking away 161 00:09:42,070 --> 00:09:41,519 third stone studios that's a good video 162 00:09:45,110 --> 00:09:42,080 right there 163 00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:45,120 that's disturbing reminds me of that tv 164 00:09:49,430 --> 00:09:46,320 show community 165 00:09:51,910 --> 00:09:49,440 if anybody has seen that yet all right 166 00:09:54,790 --> 00:09:51,920 let's get this man man man do i got the 167 00:09:57,110 --> 00:09:54,800 craziest breaking news ever 168 00:09:58,790 --> 00:09:57,120 let's start with this it only took apple 169 00:10:00,070 --> 00:09:58,800 about two years from being the first 170 00:10:03,910 --> 00:10:00,080 american company to 171 00:10:04,710 --> 00:10:03,920 top one trillion dollars of market value 172 00:10:09,110 --> 00:10:04,720 to becoming 173 00:10:12,310 --> 00:10:09,120 america's first 2 174 00:10:14,389 --> 00:10:12,320 trillion dollar giant apple surpassed 175 00:10:17,430 --> 00:10:14,399 the 2 trillion market cap 176 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:17,440 today the iphone maker passed 177 00:10:22,949 --> 00:10:20,880 saudi aramco which was briefly worth two 178 00:10:25,990 --> 00:10:22,959 trillion dollars last year 179 00:10:27,829 --> 00:10:26,000 to become the most valuable company on 180 00:10:31,590 --> 00:10:27,839 the planet last month 181 00:10:32,550 --> 00:10:31,600 apple could soon have some more company 182 00:10:36,230 --> 00:10:32,560 though 183 00:10:38,949 --> 00:10:36,240 in the two trillion dollar high club 184 00:10:41,350 --> 00:10:38,959 both microsoft and amazon are 185 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:41,360 approaching the two trill number 186 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:45,360 two trillion dollars 187 00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:49,920 man crazy all right now check this out 188 00:10:54,230 --> 00:10:52,480 i want to thank renee by the way renee 189 00:10:57,030 --> 00:10:54,240 you work so hard 190 00:10:57,829 --> 00:10:57,040 and and and you brighten my day every 191 00:11:00,389 --> 00:10:57,839 day 192 00:11:00,949 --> 00:11:00,399 with all of your research that you do 193 00:11:04,069 --> 00:11:00,959 and this is 194 00:11:06,230 --> 00:11:04,079 this is one of the things that uh renee 195 00:11:07,509 --> 00:11:06,240 uh found out there citizen scientists 196 00:11:10,630 --> 00:11:07,519 have spotted 197 00:11:12,550 --> 00:11:10,640 almost 100 of our son's 198 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:12,560 nearest neighbors now check this out in 199 00:11:15,590 --> 00:11:13,680 a new study 200 00:11:17,910 --> 00:11:15,600 members of the public including both 201 00:11:22,069 --> 00:11:17,920 professional scientists and volunteers 202 00:11:24,630 --> 00:11:22,079 discovered 95 brown dwarfs you know 203 00:11:25,990 --> 00:11:24,640 celestial objects too uh big to be 204 00:11:28,630 --> 00:11:26,000 considered planets 205 00:11:30,790 --> 00:11:28,640 and too small to be considered stars 206 00:11:33,829 --> 00:11:30,800 they found these near our sun through 207 00:11:37,990 --> 00:11:33,839 the nasa-funded citizen science project 208 00:11:39,590 --> 00:11:38,000 backyard world planet nine 209 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:39,600 they made the discovery with the help of 210 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:42,160 astronomers using the national science 211 00:11:47,350 --> 00:11:45,120 foundation's national optical infrared 212 00:11:49,030 --> 00:11:47,360 astronomy research laboratory 213 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:49,040 the results of this study will be 214 00:11:56,230 --> 00:11:52,639 published in the astrophysical journal 215 00:11:59,430 --> 00:11:56,240 very very cool now 216 00:12:00,230 --> 00:11:59,440 check this out you ever you ever dream 217 00:12:04,310 --> 00:12:00,240 about 218 00:12:06,230 --> 00:12:04,320 jumping into a pool of chocolate pudding 219 00:12:07,910 --> 00:12:06,240 never have that dream i did i had that 220 00:12:09,670 --> 00:12:07,920 dream and i've had other people come in 221 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:09,680 who dreamed of me jumping into a pool of 222 00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:11,440 chocolate pudding and and swimming and 223 00:12:15,990 --> 00:12:12,880 eating and swimming well 224 00:12:20,150 --> 00:12:16,000 check this out residents of olton in 225 00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:20,160 switzerland had 226 00:12:28,150 --> 00:12:25,120 their town snowed upon 227 00:12:32,230 --> 00:12:28,160 with chocolate 228 00:12:35,190 --> 00:12:32,240 that's right a fine coating of cocoa 229 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:35,200 dust blanketed the town in northern 230 00:12:38,470 --> 00:12:36,000 switzerland 231 00:12:39,350 --> 00:12:38,480 after a malfunction with the ventilation 232 00:12:42,710 --> 00:12:39,360 system 233 00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:42,720 at the lint and sprungly chocolate 234 00:12:48,550 --> 00:12:44,480 factory 235 00:12:49,430 --> 00:12:48,560 that's right the confectionary giant 236 00:12:52,310 --> 00:12:49,440 confirmed 237 00:12:54,389 --> 00:12:52,320 local reports of a minor mishap with the 238 00:12:56,389 --> 00:12:54,399 cooling ventilation on one of its lines 239 00:13:00,069 --> 00:12:56,399 for roasted cocoa 240 00:13:03,829 --> 00:13:00,079 nibs which is the main 241 00:13:06,710 --> 00:13:03,839 ingredient in chocolate 242 00:13:09,110 --> 00:13:06,720 that's just crazy to me all right i've 243 00:13:12,150 --> 00:13:09,120 been doing this now for 244 00:13:13,430 --> 00:13:12,160 for a while it's not gonna stop until it 245 00:13:16,150 --> 00:13:13,440 stops 246 00:13:18,150 --> 00:13:16,160 so i'm gonna start with this first it 247 00:13:18,870 --> 00:13:18,160 was coronavirus then it was murder 248 00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:18,880 hornets 249 00:13:23,190 --> 00:13:21,760 then it was the chinese lanternfly then 250 00:13:26,790 --> 00:13:23,200 plague fleas 251 00:13:30,389 --> 00:13:26,800 and now a plan 252 00:13:33,190 --> 00:13:30,399 to release over 750 million 253 00:13:34,790 --> 00:13:33,200 genetically modified mosquitoes into the 254 00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:34,800 florida keys 255 00:13:40,629 --> 00:13:38,000 next year all of it received 256 00:13:42,629 --> 00:13:40,639 final approval from local authorities 257 00:13:44,069 --> 00:13:42,639 against the objection of many local 258 00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:44,079 residents and a coalition of 259 00:13:49,189 --> 00:13:46,480 environmental advocacy groups 260 00:13:50,629 --> 00:13:49,199 the proposal had already won state and 261 00:13:52,710 --> 00:13:50,639 federal approval 262 00:13:54,310 --> 00:13:52,720 approved by the environment protection 263 00:13:56,710 --> 00:13:54,320 agency in may 264 00:13:59,110 --> 00:13:56,720 the pilot project is designed to test if 265 00:14:02,110 --> 00:13:59,120 a genetically modified mosquito 266 00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:02,120 is a viable alternative to spraying 267 00:14:08,629 --> 00:14:03,519 insecticides 268 00:14:11,110 --> 00:14:08,639 to control the aziz and zip dye 269 00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:11,120 can't say that it's a species of 270 00:14:16,629 --> 00:14:12,720 mosquito that carries several 271 00:14:19,910 --> 00:14:16,639 deadly diseases such as zika 272 00:14:25,750 --> 00:14:19,920 dengue something else i can't say and 273 00:14:31,389 --> 00:14:25,760 yellow fever the mosquito named ox-5034 274 00:14:34,949 --> 00:14:31,399 has been altered its name 275 00:14:36,790 --> 00:14:34,959 ox5034 reporting for duty 276 00:14:38,150 --> 00:14:36,800 has been altered to produce female 277 00:14:40,629 --> 00:14:38,160 offspring that die 278 00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:40,639 in the larval stage well before hatching 279 00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:42,480 and growing large enough to bite and 280 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:43,680 spread disease 281 00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:46,320 only the female mosquito bites for blood 282 00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:49,120 which she needs to mature her eggs 283 00:14:58,110 --> 00:14:52,160 males feed only on nectar and are 284 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,710 750 what could go wrong 285 00:15:06,150 --> 00:15:05,350 what could go wrong let's get the show 286 00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:06,160 cracking 287 00:15:11,910 --> 00:15:09,440 happy birthday to today vocalist 288 00:15:15,269 --> 00:15:11,920 legend and one of my favorite singers 289 00:15:19,590 --> 00:15:15,279 ever in the history of this world 290 00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:19,600 ian gillen today 75 years old 291 00:15:26,949 --> 00:15:22,720 deep purple black sabbath 292 00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:26,959 queen basis john deacon today is 69 293 00:15:34,069 --> 00:15:31,440 and okay all right okay aquanet 294 00:15:34,870 --> 00:15:34,079 aquanet and dorsey and also a great 295 00:15:38,829 --> 00:15:34,880 singer 296 00:15:41,990 --> 00:15:38,839 europe front man joey tempest 297 00:15:44,949 --> 00:15:42,000 today i'm in a great mood 298 00:15:45,430 --> 00:15:44,959 is 57 years old our dead guy's birthday 299 00:15:47,269 --> 00:15:45,440 today 300 00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:47,279 is and tonight we have will carroll on 301 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:48,639 the show 302 00:15:54,949 --> 00:15:51,040 our dead guy's birthday today is ginger 303 00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:54,959 baker 1939 to 2019 died at the age of 80 304 00:15:58,550 --> 00:15:56,720 english drummer and co-founder of the 305 00:15:59,110 --> 00:15:58,560 rock band cream and the super group 306 00:16:01,749 --> 00:15:59,120 blind 307 00:16:03,350 --> 00:16:01,759 faith among his other collaborations are 308 00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:03,360 his work with and you may not know this 309 00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:04,800 about ginger baker 310 00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:08,000 gary moore masters of reality 311 00:16:11,509 --> 00:16:09,920 i bet you didn't know that he also 312 00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:11,519 played in p-i-l 313 00:16:16,069 --> 00:16:14,480 public image limited played in hawkwind 314 00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:16,079 atomic rooster 315 00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:19,120 bill aswell jazz bassist charlie hayden 316 00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:20,000 by the way 317 00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:23,120 and jazz guitar's bill frizzell 318 00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:26,079 ginger died on october 6th last year 319 00:16:30,870 --> 00:16:28,240 2019 at the age of 80 320 00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:30,880 just got old lived a great life at a 321 00:16:35,150 --> 00:16:31,600 hospital 322 00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:35,160 in canterbury on this day in history otd 323 00:16:41,749 --> 00:16:38,320 1964. man it's like a music show tonight 324 00:16:45,269 --> 00:16:41,759 the beatles kick off their first us tour 325 00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:45,279 at san francisco's cow palace 326 00:16:50,870 --> 00:16:48,000 here's your fader fact now listen to 327 00:16:53,350 --> 00:16:50,880 this one the uss 328 00:16:55,030 --> 00:16:53,360 and people double check my fader facts 329 00:16:57,189 --> 00:16:55,040 they'll pop them up in twitter 330 00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:57,199 they'll get my fader facts going over 331 00:17:00,550 --> 00:16:59,360 and facebook and social media 332 00:17:03,269 --> 00:17:00,560 because you know they're just 333 00:17:07,990 --> 00:17:03,279 unbelievable but check this one out 334 00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:08,000 the uss william d porter u.s navy ship 335 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:10,400 was the only vessel in the united states 336 00:17:14,630 --> 00:17:11,760 navy history 337 00:17:15,510 --> 00:17:14,640 to have its entire crew placed under 338 00:17:18,549 --> 00:17:15,520 arrest 339 00:17:21,510 --> 00:17:18,559 after accidentally firing a live torpedo 340 00:17:23,590 --> 00:17:21,520 at a vessel carrying 341 00:17:25,750 --> 00:17:23,600 the president of the united states 342 00:17:28,950 --> 00:17:25,760 that's right president roosevelt 343 00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:28,960 and his secretary of state 344 00:17:32,070 --> 00:17:31,440 and that is your favorite fact tonight 345 00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:32,080 very special 346 00:17:36,070 --> 00:17:34,960 guest death angel drummer will carroll 347 00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:36,080 is here 348 00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:38,240 i can't imagine what he went through i 349 00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:39,760 think that we all have thought about 350 00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:41,360 things like this from time to time 351 00:17:43,669 --> 00:17:42,559 what he went through this year we're 352 00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:43,679 going to talk about that we're going to 353 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:44,960 talk some music we're going to talk some 354 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:46,320 drums 355 00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:49,600 we're gonna do all of that tonight we're 356 00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:51,440 gonna get some ufos in don't you worry 357 00:17:54,710 --> 00:17:52,400 about that 358 00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:54,720 and uh some supernatural some go some 359 00:17:57,830 --> 00:17:56,240 conspiracy theory we're gonna do all of 360 00:18:00,070 --> 00:17:57,840 that tonight with will 361 00:18:01,270 --> 00:18:00,080 and uh tomorrow night linda moulton howe 362 00:18:04,310 --> 00:18:01,280 is here 363 00:18:08,950 --> 00:18:04,320 and uh oh man 364 00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:08,960 meow in twitter you can see this 365 00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:11,280 hey church you have a fever i've never 366 00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:13,280 seen you in any 367 00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:16,160 shirt but black or gray i know right i 368 00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:18,960 was just in one of those moods tonight 369 00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:22,480 meow just posted a gif of kip 370 00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:26,160 winger singing that song what was that 371 00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:29,520 a song a heart break 372 00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:31,840 something on a heartbreak i can't 373 00:18:35,590 --> 00:18:33,760 remember good guitar solo 374 00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:35,600 though in that song pretty good 375 00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:38,640 keyboards i think the keyboard player 376 00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:40,400 wrote that song that's why it's so good 377 00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:41,840 with those keyboard tracks 378 00:18:49,029 --> 00:18:44,400 yeah all right all right let me hit this 379 00:18:59,190 --> 00:18:55,190 all right rivermooncoffee.com 380 00:19:02,070 --> 00:18:59,200 fade to black blend river mooncoffee.com 381 00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:02,080 i just like saying that 382 00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:05,840 do you remember a few years ago 383 00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:07,440 on the show might have been longer than 384 00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:08,880 that on the show 385 00:19:15,029 --> 00:19:12,880 and and i came on and i shared with 386 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:15,039 everybody 387 00:19:21,270 --> 00:19:18,240 my dream about waking up in the morning 388 00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:21,280 going downstairs and 389 00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:24,640 attempting to make my first cup of 390 00:19:30,549 --> 00:19:26,320 coffee 391 00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:30,559 and there was no electricity and 392 00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:33,840 i go and i check things out 393 00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:35,520 i go outside i check the electrical 394 00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:38,240 panel i think and i'm flipping switches 395 00:19:43,029 --> 00:19:39,520 and 396 00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:43,039 sure enough no electricity not working 397 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:45,200 and i'm kind of bummed about it and then 398 00:19:54,070 --> 00:19:49,360 i you know and i checked my cell phone 399 00:19:56,390 --> 00:19:54,080 got no cell got no phone service 400 00:19:57,590 --> 00:19:56,400 it's down to normally that's still 401 00:20:00,789 --> 00:19:57,600 working right 402 00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:00,799 i got no phone service and i'm standing 403 00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:04,000 at uh at the sink and i'm 404 00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:07,120 looking out of the kitchen window you 405 00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:08,799 know the sun's out it's early in the 406 00:20:13,430 --> 00:20:10,400 morning 407 00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:16,549 don't hear stuff going on i'm not that's 408 00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:19,520 kind of weird all right but i got to get 409 00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:20,720 this electricity back 410 00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:22,559 on i need my morning cup of coffee and 411 00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:26,159 then and then 412 00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:29,679 it spirals downhill 413 00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:37,830 that we've had something disrupt 414 00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:41,600 electricity and what happened along with 415 00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:42,000 that 416 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:48,240 which means today if we lose electricity 417 00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:51,520 that means no 418 00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:55,600 internet that means 419 00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:00,960 no television that means 420 00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:05,840 no news that means 421 00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:08,880 no communication 422 00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:12,080 that means not only 423 00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:15,120 i don't know what's going on 424 00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:18,480 but neither does anybody else 425 00:21:25,510 --> 00:21:21,520 and how long would it 426 00:21:27,909 --> 00:21:25,520 take to just spiral out of control 427 00:21:29,909 --> 00:21:27,919 and i know that right now right now with 428 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:29,919 the pandemic and the economy and 429 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:30,960 lockdown and 430 00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:34,480 we've got a little taste of crazy 431 00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:37,919 today right okay and we've talked about 432 00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:39,200 this a lot over the years 433 00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:42,400 lots of movies and things and and 434 00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:45,440 and what it would be like and right okay 435 00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:48,960 so we got a little taste of it 436 00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:52,320 but that dream made me realize 437 00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:55,919 suddenly that how ready 438 00:22:01,669 --> 00:22:00,000 am i personally with my home and my 439 00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:01,679 family and everything else how prepared 440 00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:02,799 am i 441 00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:07,120 for the day after an event like that 442 00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:09,200 the day after there's no news nobody 443 00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:10,799 knows anything nobody knows what's going 444 00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:11,039 on 445 00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:18,480 that's where the your battery operated 446 00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:19,360 radios 447 00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:22,320 are going to uh rich i really appreciate 448 00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:23,039 that 449 00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:26,400 are going to tune into nothing 450 00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:29,600 there's no communication you're going to 451 00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:30,799 listen to what 452 00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:32,480 where's everybody getting their news 453 00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:33,919 from 454 00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:36,880 satellites are down that's it you don't 455 00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:38,480 know 456 00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:45,120 operators with uh generators that 457 00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:47,600 may still be running or not you don't 458 00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:48,799 know 459 00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:53,600 everything made out of 460 00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:57,679 metal but anyway the next day 461 00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:01,200 is where the crazy starts because there 462 00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:02,799 are going to be people what what 463 00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:06,159 you know no gas maybe they don't have 464 00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:07,280 any more food 465 00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:09,280 maybe they never had food the day before 466 00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:10,640 they were going to go shopping that day 467 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:12,000 and now that day 468 00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:14,080 their their family's hungry and they got 469 00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:15,280 nothing and it's 470 00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:18,320 [\h__\h] i don't know so 471 00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:21,360 what i did uh and this was 472 00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:24,400 uh after rita heard me uh 473 00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:26,159 tell this dream on the air she was like 474 00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:27,679 hey man 475 00:23:34,149 --> 00:23:31,200 church how ready are you how 476 00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:34,159 ready are you you're the king you're the 477 00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:36,240 king of this castle 478 00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:40,240 that's it you're the leader lead us 479 00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:42,960 are you prepared i said no so rita and i 480 00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:45,440 went out for a couple of days 481 00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:49,360 and we built up we've got a pretty good 482 00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:51,520 pretty good collection of stuff if if 483 00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:53,520 things go down 484 00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:55,679 we're ready i've got battery radios and 485 00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:57,919 battery lights and i've got tons of food 486 00:24:02,789 --> 00:23:59,919 and storage and canned goods and 487 00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:02,799 and coffee and and and thing i've i've 488 00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:03,200 got 489 00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:08,240 stuff 490 00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:11,520 but i've got i've got cases of 491 00:24:17,830 --> 00:24:14,559 uh of things and i'm i'm okay we we're 492 00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:17,840 good for a month or two okay if the doo 493 00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,400 doo hits the fan 494 00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:22,559 you've got to you've got to be ready all 495 00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:24,320 right okay 496 00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:27,600 now i'm going to hit you 497 00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:32,000 with this i need you to sit down i need 498 00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:32,960 you to relax 499 00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:36,000 and i need you to listen 500 00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:39,200 to what i'm about to say 501 00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:46,310 today it was announced that space 502 00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:48,720 weather experts i'm not here to alarm 503 00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:50,000 everybody 504 00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:57,190 just be ready because today was 505 00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:58,320 announced that space 506 00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:01,679 weather experts are warning that a 507 00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:06,320 solar storm could strike earth tomorrow 508 00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:10,159 as in thursday as in 509 00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,159 tomorrow which could mean the disruption 510 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,559 of electrical generation systems the 511 00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:18,080 electric grid 512 00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:21,600 satellite communications and radio 513 00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:24,320 signals you got that rich did you hear 514 00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:26,480 that 515 00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:29,279 according to space weather physicist dr 516 00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:32,080 tamita skove 517 00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:34,720 the sun holds our attention this week 518 00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:36,159 with multiple bright 519 00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:39,039 regions flaring and launching solar 520 00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:41,360 storms 521 00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:44,480 predictions from nasa and the national 522 00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:47,520 oceanic and atmospheric administration 523 00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:51,200 noaa show that the solar storm is 524 00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:52,320 expected to 525 00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:55,520 impact earth by midday 526 00:26:04,070 --> 00:25:59,279 tomorrow as in thursday 527 00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:06,870 this storm that has been kicking up all 528 00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:08,000 week 529 00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:11,440 has been caused by a massive coronal 530 00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:15,279 mass ejection a massive one a cme 531 00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:18,480 now i'm not here to cause panic fear 532 00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:22,240 in the streets what i am saying is 533 00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:25,360 this announcement is the first time i 534 00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:25,919 have 535 00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:34,070 i don't know why mass media has chosen 536 00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:38,400 by the way it was a breaking news about 537 00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:42,240 about two hours ago so 538 00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:44,000 has mass media picked up on the edge 539 00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:45,600 they want panic in the streets with 540 00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:47,279 everything else that is going down right 541 00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:54,230 but midday tomorrow 542 00:27:02,070 --> 00:26:58,799 now it could be a big nothing burger 543 00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:02,080 it could and i hope that it is 544 00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:05,360 this kind of warning just freaks me out 545 00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:08,960 so there you go and so i'm reading this 546 00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:10,240 and it's breaking news and thank you 547 00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:12,080 renee right renee 548 00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:14,960 i would have missed this um the 549 00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:16,640 announcements came out 550 00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:20,480 from by the way uh let me 551 00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:23,679 get this uh to you the announcement 552 00:27:31,310 --> 00:27:27,200 came from uh noah 553 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:31,320 and came from uh 554 00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:34,960 spacespace.com i believe i believe 555 00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:38,720 and so uh oh science live 556 00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:42,080 so it 557 00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:44,960 i would have missed it and immediately i 558 00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:46,399 started thinking about 559 00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:49,440 my dream that i said it was prophetic or 560 00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:50,720 anything like that 561 00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:53,360 but i have often thought what if this is 562 00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:54,960 something that is not in our control i 563 00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:56,320 don't want to see it happen i don't want 564 00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:57,440 to scare anybody 565 00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:59,840 i'm just saying keep this on the back of 566 00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:00,960 your mind 567 00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:07,190 with that i am your host jimmy church 568 00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:09,039 taking another swig 569 00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,840 of my river moon coffee river 570 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:12,159 mooncoffee.com 571 00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:14,720 tonight on the program will carroll is 572 00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:15,360 here 573 00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:16,960 he is the drummer for death angel 574 00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:18,399 tomorrow 575 00:28:22,789 --> 00:28:21,679 linda moulton howe we have so much to 576 00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:22,799 discuss 577 00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:24,399 uh we're gonna be doing that tonight 578 00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:25,919 with will too as well but 579 00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:29,039 uh linda's got some amazing things that 580 00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:30,240 that are cooking 581 00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,760 over at earth files and i spent a lot of 582 00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:35,760 time over at earth files each day 583 00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:37,360 so we're going to be going through that 584 00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:39,440 and of course we're going to discuss 585 00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:42,480 all of the the current world 586 00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:45,679 news that is going on uh on this planet 587 00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:48,320 and with that i'm gonna get out of here 588 00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:49,200 will carroll 589 00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:51,200 is up next i am your host jimmy church 590 00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:52,480 follow me on twitter 591 00:29:01,029 --> 00:28:56,480 at j church radio at j church radio 592 00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:01,039 email is jimmy jimmychurchradio.com 593 00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:04,960 on the game changer network and kgra 594 00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:07,520 the planets all right it's going to be a 595 00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:08,960 great night great conversation 596 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:11,840 will carroll is next stay with me i'll 597 00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:47,029 this is nicole church daughter of you 598 00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:49,279 know who and you're listening to fade to 599 00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:51,600 black on jimmychurchradio.com and the 600 00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:55,679 game changer network 601 00:30:02,070 --> 00:29:58,000 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always great when 710 00:34:36,310 --> 00:34:32,720 linda 711 00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:36,320 stops by that's tomorrow night tonight 712 00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:38,240 tonight our guest is will carroll the 713 00:34:42,470 --> 00:34:40,560 drummer for death angel 714 00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:42,480 now let me set the stage for you two 715 00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:43,599 months ago 716 00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:45,520 after death angel was nominated for 717 00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:48,079 their first grammy award will had 718 00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:50,480 contracted covet 19 while the band was 719 00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:52,159 on tour 720 00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:54,320 and he was on a ventilator in a 721 00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:55,760 medically induced 722 00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:57,520 coma fighting for his life in a san 723 00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:59,040 francisco hospital 724 00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:00,480 tonight we're going to discuss the 725 00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:02,640 visions he had during those 12 days in a 726 00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,440 coma 727 00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:05,760 and how it has changed his life we're 728 00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:07,359 also going to talk some music this is 729 00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:08,640 fade to black we'll talk some 730 00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:09,920 spirituality 731 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:11,760 and of course what it's like to play in 732 00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:13,040 one of the great metal bands in the 733 00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,079 world today 734 00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:16,480 death angel has released nine studio 735 00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:18,880 albums two demo tapes one box set 736 00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:20,880 two live albums and is one of the big 737 00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:23,359 eight that's right which includes 738 00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:25,680 metallica mega death slayer anthrax 739 00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:26,480 testament 740 00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:29,760 exodus and overkill their recent studio 741 00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:30,000 album 742 00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:33,839 is homicide homicide humanist side 743 00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:36,960 it was released on may 31st 2019 744 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:39,520 uh nuclear blast you like that hey will 745 00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:41,040 welcome to the program and 746 00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:43,280 you like that slip you like that slip up 747 00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:44,079 homicide 748 00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:47,520 right hey it almost sounds better 749 00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:50,160 welcome to the show man and listen uh 750 00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:52,880 you get the first time guest disclaimer 751 00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:54,560 so let me get that out of the way and 752 00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,160 then we'll move on which is this 753 00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:58,640 will it's just you and i sitting on my 754 00:36:01,430 --> 00:36:00,800 couch having a conversation as friends 755 00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:01,440 and 756 00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:03,440 where that conversation starts it starts 757 00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:04,880 where it ends it ends 758 00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:06,880 but we're gonna end as friends there you 759 00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:08,400 go you ready 760 00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:12,320 sounds good yeah um i i have so much 761 00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:13,359 that i want to 762 00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:16,480 uh talk with you tonight about but 763 00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:19,200 uh i want to get some some of the like 764 00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:20,960 generic stuff out of the way which for 765 00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:21,520 me is 766 00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:24,480 some of the most interesting which is 767 00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:26,240 because i'm a musician 768 00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:30,000 uh you're a drummer and were you 769 00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:32,320 did you grow up did you do the normal 770 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:33,200 route right 771 00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:36,480 wooden spoons and and pots and pans and 772 00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,440 driving 773 00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:39,440 uh your parents crazy did it start like 774 00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:40,960 that for you 775 00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:43,599 more or less yeah um even before i could 776 00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:44,320 remember 777 00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:46,160 uh my parents told me i would just 778 00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:48,880 constantly be beating on the other pots 779 00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:49,839 and pans and 780 00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:54,000 the typical thing kids do but um 781 00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:55,599 i just stuck with it they got me a toy 782 00:37:00,230 --> 00:36:57,359 drum set when i was like 783 00:37:00,550 --> 00:37:00,240 five or six and that just progressed and 784 00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:00,560 i 785 00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:16,720 oh that was 1983 786 00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:20,240 83 okay so 83 787 00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:23,920 the the world of music really 788 00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:26,480 was taking off like it had never done 789 00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:27,200 before 790 00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:30,480 right yeah mtv sunset strip 791 00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:33,920 san francisco the metal scene new york 792 00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:37,599 orange county los angeles um 793 00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:39,520 everything coming out of england at that 794 00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:40,880 time 795 00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:43,839 uh were is that what you were doing were 796 00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:44,720 you 797 00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:48,640 playing in 83 798 00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:51,359 oh i was way into heavy metal by then i 799 00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:52,160 i had been 800 00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:54,560 for a couple years i got turned on to 801 00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:55,359 kiss 802 00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:57,760 when i was five years old i have a two 803 00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:58,880 older brothers and a 804 00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:01,040 older sister who are all listening to 805 00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:03,280 rock music 70s rock 806 00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:05,359 and i got turned on to kiss and 807 00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:07,599 aerosmith and ac dc 808 00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:09,520 and led zeppelin and the who and all 809 00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:11,599 those bands like at a really young age 810 00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:14,160 so when like uh bands like rat and 811 00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:16,079 twisted sister and motley crew started 812 00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:16,880 coming out 813 00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:18,880 that's when i uh started getting into 814 00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:19,920 heavier stuff 815 00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:21,920 yeah that um you know what's really 816 00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:23,119 funny i was a big 817 00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:26,000 hair hair band guy you know van halen 818 00:38:28,710 --> 00:38:26,560 and things 819 00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:28,720 black sabbath and deep purple and the 820 00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:31,280 stuff that was before that of course but 821 00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:34,480 um uh how do i want to 822 00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:37,680 say this in i want to say this in the 823 00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:38,800 right way 824 00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:41,839 the first time i heard motley crue's 825 00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:44,880 uh first album and 826 00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:48,240 too too fast for love and then 827 00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:50,800 uh and i listened it wasn't the guitar 828 00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:51,359 tone 829 00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:53,599 that i was listening to on that it was 830 00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:55,280 tommy lee 831 00:39:01,190 --> 00:39:00,000 when shout out the devil came out and 832 00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:01,200 that freaking cowbell 833 00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:04,320 king king king right and i'm like who is 834 00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:05,599 this guy 835 00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:07,760 these guys are the most metal thing i've 836 00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:09,280 ever heard 837 00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:11,280 and what they turned into is different 838 00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:13,119 but the impact of those first two 839 00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:14,160 records on me 840 00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:16,480 i thought those dudes were were really 841 00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:17,599 rebels and 842 00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:19,599 and it was tommy lee that i listened to 843 00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:20,880 in that band it wasn't 844 00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,720 it wasn't the guitars or the vocals or 845 00:39:26,829 --> 00:39:24,240 even the songs 846 00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:26,839 tommy just had a way of playing those 847 00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,240 drums 848 00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:30,000 he was definitely the best musician in 849 00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:31,599 the band um 850 00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:34,800 even to this day but uh yeah for me too 851 00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:36,000 the drums i 852 00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:38,079 i noticed the drums before anything else 853 00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:39,520 when i first heard a 854 00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:41,520 lookset kill i think is the first song i 855 00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:42,880 heard and 856 00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:44,640 i also like their image too i like the 857 00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:46,640 way they looked so i bought shout out to 858 00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,480 devil like right away 859 00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:50,720 and i still love it i still think it's a 860 00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:52,480 classic great 861 00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:55,680 la metal album man uh okay 862 00:40:02,470 --> 00:39:59,760 we're gonna move on from motley crew but 863 00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,480 it was about two weeks ago i'm goofing 864 00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:04,240 around in the studio and i'm writing and 865 00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,760 things i've got youtube running in the 866 00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:07,920 background playlist flying 867 00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:10,960 and uh um 868 00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:14,000 i can't remember the video 869 00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:16,079 it was from the first album i can't 870 00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:18,079 remember the video motley crew rolls on 871 00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:20,319 and they shot at it like gazari's or 872 00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:21,359 something 873 00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:24,720 and i'm why and i just i couldn't 874 00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:26,560 believe what i was watching 875 00:40:30,069 --> 00:40:28,720 and it was just it was just hysterical 876 00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:30,079 and back then 877 00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:31,440 you know i thought it was the coolest 878 00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:33,680 thing i still do it's not even what i'm 879 00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:34,480 saying 880 00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,880 but it's funny how you see it now so 881 00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:38,880 many years later 882 00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:41,680 and it's uh it's got all of the elements 883 00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:43,599 of of spinal tap 884 00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:46,640 and coolness all rolled into one yeah 885 00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:48,560 i believe that their first video was 886 00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:50,560 livewire i think that's what yeah 887 00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:53,920 livewire it was live wire yes yes yes 888 00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:57,280 yes yes yes so compare compared to the 889 00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:58,400 other la bands 890 00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:01,119 they look the coolest like them and wasp 891 00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:02,240 i thought wass looked 892 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:05,440 really cool as well they weren't so um 893 00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,960 so feminine looking and like they 894 00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:08,800 weren't wearing pink not yet at least 895 00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:09,359 you know 896 00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:11,200 they were still in black leather and 897 00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:12,960 looked kind of intimidating so yeah i 898 00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:14,079 definitely digged it 899 00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:16,720 i'll tell you uh we're gonna move on but 900 00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:17,280 uh 901 00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:23,760 at about that time 83 and i got really 902 00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:24,720 really really sick 903 00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:26,400 i'm in the hospital i was out i didn't 904 00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:28,400 do 12 days i didn't have a 12 day 905 00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:30,720 stretch but i had four days right 906 00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:32,800 so i woke up four days later i didn't 907 00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:34,640 know what had happened i had the coolest 908 00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:35,760 dreams ever 909 00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:38,880 right and uh-huh and i wanted to go back 910 00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:41,200 i was kind of bummed i was like man that 911 00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:41,920 was 912 00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:45,520 and i had 913 00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:48,560 very different uh yeah yeah 914 00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:51,359 we'll get into that but anyway uh next 915 00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:53,200 to my hospital bed some people had come 916 00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:54,720 by and visited and they dropped off a 917 00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:56,240 stack of magazines 918 00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:58,960 and the top map was karang and on the 919 00:42:03,510 --> 00:41:59,440 cover 920 00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:03,520 is wasp and and i'm looking at the band 921 00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:06,000 and i looked at chris holmes and i went 922 00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:06,880 that 923 00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,280 you remember he had the uh the circular 924 00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:15,599 saw blades on his shoulder she remember 925 00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:16,160 just 926 00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:19,119 yeah yeah yeah and uh and i'll and and 927 00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:22,000 later and this is how life is strange 928 00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:24,480 uh about a year later two two years 929 00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:25,920 later i come to la 930 00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,839 you know to be a guitar player and one 931 00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:29,520 of the first people that i met when i 932 00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,079 came here 933 00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,680 and became friends with were still 934 00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:33,680 friends to this day slept on my couch 935 00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:34,480 for years 936 00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:38,160 chris holmes i can't tell you man i 937 00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:39,040 would sit 938 00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:45,280 and play guitar just just sit and play 939 00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:47,599 and play and play and we became really 940 00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:49,040 good friends he's been on this show 941 00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:52,800 so uh there you go okay so now 942 00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:56,000 um uh as as 943 00:43:02,230 --> 00:42:59,920 things uh you're from san francisco 944 00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:02,240 i was born in daly i was born in san 945 00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:03,119 francisco 946 00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:05,440 but grew up in daly city i went to 947 00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:06,960 elementary school in high school in 948 00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:07,920 dalian city 949 00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:10,000 and then when i turned 18 i moved back 950 00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:11,200 to san francisco 951 00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:13,520 and i've been been here ever since okay 952 00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:16,240 so because san francisco 953 00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:19,359 and the metal scene that was going on 954 00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:22,480 up there was a singular event what was 955 00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:24,960 going down here in l.a was different 956 00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:27,280 than what was going on in san francisco 957 00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:28,560 also different than 958 00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:31,280 what was going on the real medal here in 959 00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:32,560 la was down 960 00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:34,319 in orange county and it was totally 961 00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,599 underground 962 00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:38,160 right and then uh you know i'm talking 963 00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:40,000 mental history with you but 964 00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:41,760 but for the audience you know what was 965 00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:43,520 going on in the east coast but 966 00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:47,520 san francisco had its own thing going on 967 00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:51,200 were you a part of that yes i was a a 968 00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:52,800 part of like the second wave 969 00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:56,000 or third wave of thrash bands like when 970 00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:58,079 metallica was playing the clubs 971 00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,160 i was too young at that time to go to 972 00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:02,400 shows by the time i started going to 973 00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:03,119 shows 974 00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:10,079 and um the steam was uh still strong 975 00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:12,960 and lasted for a good five six more 976 00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:13,839 years 977 00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:16,319 um but yeah so i was a part of the tail 978 00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:17,440 end of it 979 00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:20,640 i guess but uh the i had a high school 980 00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,160 thrash rental band 981 00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:24,640 and we played all the famous clubs the 982 00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:26,480 stone the army 983 00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:28,960 and we opened up for all the bands 984 00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:30,640 violence forbidden 985 00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:34,240 uh so yeah i was i was definitely around 986 00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:37,280 yeah and uh and so 987 00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:39,599 i know that you were playing those clubs 988 00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:41,040 but what was 989 00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:43,920 so now that uh the thrash in the metal 990 00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:45,839 scene was so strong 991 00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:49,280 what were you listening to at that point 992 00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:53,359 um definitely predominantly thrash 993 00:44:58,069 --> 00:44:56,160 and you know in classic heavy metal uh 994 00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:58,079 by the late 80s i started getting into 995 00:45:02,309 --> 00:44:59,599 death metal which is uh 996 00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:02,319 like the the next step beyond thrash 997 00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:03,040 metal 998 00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:07,599 for sure not just bay area thrash 999 00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:09,440 stuff from all over the world uh 1000 00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:11,520 especially germany germany was one of my 1001 00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:12,240 favorite 1002 00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:14,720 thrash metal scenes in the 80s for sure 1003 00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:15,760 yeah the stuff that com 1004 00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,160 was coming out of europe continues to 1005 00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:20,400 come out of your freaks yeah absolutely 1006 00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:23,760 so so good now this is where 1007 00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:26,160 i'm actually going to segue in a weird 1008 00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:28,319 way but follow me on this 1009 00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:31,839 okay one of the things about a thrash 1010 00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:32,880 metal band 1011 00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:39,200 guitar is cool vocals great songs great 1012 00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:42,480 industrial whatever it may be but 1013 00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:46,319 it's the drummer and the endurance 1014 00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,760 to get through a set and i was 1015 00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:51,680 always so impressed with that that's why 1016 00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:53,119 i could never be a drummer there's no 1017 00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:54,800 way i could do it 1018 00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:56,880 but and you know what i'm talking about 1019 00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:58,480 you guys are olympic 1020 00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:01,200 athletes right and so your health has 1021 00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:03,040 always been 1022 00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:04,720 something that you've had to take care 1023 00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:07,839 of as as a drummer and a thrash band 1024 00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:14,480 you'd think so 1025 00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:16,640 how do you do it i mean how do you how 1026 00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:17,599 do you do 1027 00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:22,079 a 60-minute set of absolute insanity 1028 00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:25,280 you've got to do you eat right do you 1029 00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:28,880 jog or is your exercise uh rehearsal and 1030 00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:32,640 sound check and then playing the show um 1031 00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:34,480 i mean my routine now is definitely 1032 00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:37,040 different than it was before i got sick 1033 00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:39,760 but prior uh to getting six my second 1034 00:46:43,109 --> 00:46:40,800 routine was 1035 00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:43,119 yeah we'd sound check i would warm up 1036 00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:44,800 for an hour before we go on 1037 00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:47,119 like just on a drum pad or like on my 1038 00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,560 lap or whatever 1039 00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:50,720 um and i just get as much sleep as 1040 00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:52,079 possible on tour 1041 00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:54,960 and i sleep quite a bit i i'll take naps 1042 00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:56,240 before the show 1043 00:47:00,870 --> 00:47:00,079 and just make sure i wake up within the 1044 00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:00,880 hour 1045 00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:02,880 as far as eating i just i make sure i 1046 00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:05,200 don't eat two hours before we play 1047 00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:07,760 um and i'm definitely eating better now 1048 00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:09,200 than i was then 1049 00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:12,319 uh so yeah it's basically just 1050 00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:14,240 making sure i don't eat too late and 1051 00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:16,000 getting plenty of rest 1052 00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:18,560 and and once you go on stage uh like 1053 00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:20,720 this your adrenaline turns on like 1054 00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:23,200 it's like a flick of a switch sure and 1055 00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:24,640 and you just you don't even think about 1056 00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:25,599 it no matter 1057 00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:27,839 if this sets a half an hour or an hour 1058 00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:29,680 and a half you uh 1059 00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:30,880 you just don't think about it it's just 1060 00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:32,480 what i do i've been doing it for so many 1061 00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:33,359 years 1062 00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:37,119 that uh i just i i'm conditioned 1063 00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:40,559 to do it now were you ready uh you uh 1064 00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:41,839 you got the nod 1065 00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:44,800 for death angel uh back in 2009 right 1066 00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:45,680 and 1067 00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:51,440 were you a fan of of death angel going 1068 00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:52,480 into it 1069 00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:55,200 totally um i i knew their whole 1070 00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:56,160 discography 1071 00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:58,800 very well so when i did jam with them 1072 00:48:02,470 --> 00:48:00,160 for the first time 1073 00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:02,480 we ended up playing almost a full set's 1074 00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:03,839 worth of music 1075 00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,559 so it was a pretty easy transition for 1076 00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:08,079 everybody it seemed like because i just 1077 00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,280 i knew the whole catalog 1078 00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:11,680 pretty much and i was a fan i've seen 1079 00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:13,680 him many times before 1080 00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:16,720 um like my one of my first club shows 1081 00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:19,440 was death angel at the stone in 87 1082 00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:22,000 so i knew some of the guys for many 1083 00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:23,680 years i went to high school 1084 00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:26,800 with uh ted the rhythm guitar player and 1085 00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:28,160 uh so it was a very uh 1086 00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:30,720 comfortable comfortable situation i knew 1087 00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:33,119 him already and i knew the songs and 1088 00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:36,240 uh it just was a smooth transition now 1089 00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,000 uh touring takes its toll 1090 00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:42,480 oh yeah and yeah absolutely and it 1091 00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,200 doesn't matter 1092 00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,359 if you're touring with barry manilow 1093 00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:47,040 you're gonna get worn out 1094 00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:49,440 it's just it's what it is you're staying 1095 00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:50,079 up late 1096 00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:53,200 you're you're sleeping uh crazy hours 1097 00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,119 you're on a bus you're in a different 1098 00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:57,119 city every single day you're not eating 1099 00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:59,280 the best and you want to have fun too as 1100 00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:59,680 well 1101 00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:01,440 and that takes its toll plus you got a 1102 00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:03,359 gig to do each night 1103 00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:06,480 yeah and uh doing that 1104 00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:09,599 for for how many years right right 1105 00:49:16,069 --> 00:49:12,960 11 years up to uh 2020 1106 00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:16,079 were you um on the tour i want to get 1107 00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:16,400 this 1108 00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:18,640 in before we get to the break uh what 1109 00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:22,000 was your health like in 2020 was it 1110 00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,400 you know 10 years of of recording and 1111 00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:26,640 and being on the road and things where 1112 00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:29,440 maybe 2020 you weren't at your tip-top 1113 00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:30,640 shape 1114 00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:34,720 absolutely um i was drinking the 1115 00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:36,720 more than i had on any other tour it was 1116 00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:38,319 just years of 1117 00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:40,880 of drinking on tour had this all come 1118 00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:42,960 together on that last tour and i was 1119 00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:44,800 i was drinking a bottle of jameson at 1120 00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:46,880 night i'd get some help from from people 1121 00:49:50,549 --> 00:49:48,800 but i would drink the lion's share 1122 00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:50,559 right and uh just definitely was i 1123 00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:52,480 wasn't taking care of myself 1124 00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:56,000 um i was i was heading for disaster and 1125 00:50:02,470 --> 00:49:59,200 that's exactly what happened well 1126 00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:02,480 and now and this is what uh 1127 00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:06,640 when when the story broke about you 1128 00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:09,200 i picked up on it immediately and i i 1129 00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:11,040 watched a couple of the videos that you 1130 00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:12,720 had done talking about the experience i 1131 00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:14,720 watched the news channels up in san 1132 00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:16,000 francisco 1133 00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:17,839 uh there was heavy coverage heavy 1134 00:50:21,910 --> 00:50:19,440 coverage on this and of course 1135 00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:21,920 into the media but i started reading 1136 00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:22,960 into this and i thought 1137 00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:26,240 holy crap the reason why 1138 00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:30,640 for me is that when when you got sick 1139 00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:34,880 coronavirus and kovat 19 it was still 1140 00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:37,680 a rumor right if you know what i mean it 1141 00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:38,319 was like 1142 00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:41,280 people were talking about it but the 1143 00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:43,680 pandemic hadn't started and 1144 00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:46,880 flights hadn't shut down the world was 1145 00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:50,000 just now uh starting to talk about it 1146 00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:50,960 did you even 1147 00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:54,160 know what was going on uh yeah during 1148 00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:55,200 the tour 1149 00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:58,480 like mid tour uh our show in italy got 1150 00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:00,400 canceled in milan 1151 00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:03,359 uh because of covid and that's when it 1152 00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:04,960 really got on our radar like 1153 00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:07,680 when we left for the tour it had just 1154 00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:08,079 started 1155 00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:10,960 and we were hearing news trickling in 1156 00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:12,559 but when you're on tour you're kind of 1157 00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:13,440 like 1158 00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:15,280 in an insulated world and you're around 1159 00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:17,119 the same people every day and 1160 00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:18,480 you kind of like in a lawless 1161 00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,680 environment so you don't really pay 1162 00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:21,599 attention to the outside world too much 1163 00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:23,920 but when the show in milan got canceled 1164 00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:26,160 that kind of uh was an eye-opener 1165 00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:27,599 and then we were starting to hear more 1166 00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:29,440 and more about it and then the very last 1167 00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:30,720 show of the tour 1168 00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:33,200 in hamburg i believe germany got 1169 00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:34,319 cancelled 1170 00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:37,440 and um people were already sick on the 1171 00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:38,240 bus by that 1172 00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:41,119 by by that point and i i was starting to 1173 00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:42,559 feel under the weather the last couple 1174 00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:43,520 of days but 1175 00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:44,800 there were a couple other people on the 1176 00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:46,960 bus who were really sick so 1177 00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:50,000 uh it was it was going around now um 1178 00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:52,400 i've been on tour and we all know what 1179 00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:53,920 that's like you know somebody gets a 1180 00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:54,400 cold 1181 00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:56,480 well you guys are on a bus which is just 1182 00:52:00,549 --> 00:51:57,599 a sealed 1183 00:52:01,589 --> 00:52:00,559 environment everybody's sick you know 1184 00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:01,599 three days later 1185 00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:04,079 everybody's got a cold uh did you guys 1186 00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,839 think that that may be what was going on 1187 00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:07,440 it was just a cold did you guys think it 1188 00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:09,200 was coronavirus 1189 00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:11,119 no at the time when people started 1190 00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:13,280 getting sick like mid-tour 1191 00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:16,400 like our tour manager was throwing up 1192 00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:19,440 for for like 24 hours straight but then 1193 00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:20,880 she seemed okay so we just thought it 1194 00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:23,119 was a stomach bug and our bus driver 1195 00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:25,040 got the same thing and he was puking 1196 00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:26,480 while he was driving 1197 00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:27,839 and so yeah we just thought it was a 1198 00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:30,319 stomach bug but in hindsight i mean it 1199 00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:31,920 was probably something more obviously 1200 00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:32,960 but uh 1201 00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:34,720 at the time we just didn't we didn't 1202 00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:36,240 think it was anything to be too 1203 00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:37,599 concerned about 1204 00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:40,000 and uh but then when uh our guitarist 1205 00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:40,720 rob 1206 00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:43,760 got really ill the last week like maybe 1207 00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,280 four or five days before i started 1208 00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:47,599 feeling ill and um 1209 00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:48,880 that's when we started getting a little 1210 00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:50,720 worried like maybe this was floating 1211 00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:51,599 around on the bus 1212 00:52:56,549 --> 00:52:54,800 and our lighting technician got ill and 1213 00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:56,559 yeah it was a bad scene 1214 00:53:02,950 --> 00:52:59,680 now what okay so for you personally 1215 00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:05,430 what happened okay i i woke up like the 1216 00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:08,400 second or third last day of the tour 1217 00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:10,319 uh just feeling a little off like kind 1218 00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:11,920 of low energy and 1219 00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:15,040 just that pre-sickness feeling um but it 1220 00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:16,880 wasn't too intense or anything so i 1221 00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:18,160 didn't have a fever or anything like 1222 00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:19,119 that so 1223 00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:22,160 i wasn't too concerned but i did uh 1224 00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:25,200 stop drinking and i stopped hanging out 1225 00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,319 backstage after the show and and hanging 1226 00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:30,480 out in the after party and whatever 1227 00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:32,079 after we played i'd go straight to the 1228 00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:33,760 bus and just go to my bunk and try to 1229 00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:34,960 sleep it off 1230 00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:37,040 and just taking vitamins and doing 1231 00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:38,960 whatever i could to try to fight it back 1232 00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:39,520 and 1233 00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:44,079 show got cancelled 1234 00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:46,640 and uh we had a day off because the show 1235 00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:47,920 wasn't happening so we went to a 1236 00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:49,680 steakhouse in germany 1237 00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:51,680 and i just didn't have an appetite at 1238 00:53:54,870 --> 00:53:52,960 all and 1239 00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:54,880 uh oddly enough when we were at the 1240 00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:58,000 steakhouse the person cooking the chef 1241 00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,480 collapsed from from a fever and got 1242 00:54:02,950 --> 00:54:01,920 rushed out of the restaurant in the 1243 00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:02,960 ambulance 1244 00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:04,880 and uh you know no one seems to talk 1245 00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:06,079 about that but 1246 00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:08,000 all of death age or most of death angel 1247 00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:10,319 were there and all of exodus were there 1248 00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:12,960 having dinner and the guy cooking or 1249 00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:14,640 preparing our meal had to get rushed to 1250 00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:15,839 the hospital so 1251 00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:19,040 that's kind of alarming oh 1252 00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:22,720 man yeah yeah i'm picturing all of that 1253 00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:23,440 going down 1254 00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,480 and you you're you're not feeling right 1255 00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:28,480 and and let's let's you know you're not 1256 00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:29,599 a small guy 1257 00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:33,760 right right and so you at a steakhouse 1258 00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:36,400 with the guys and you're not eating 1259 00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:37,440 steak 1260 00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:40,079 at that point something's wrong i mean 1261 00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:40,720 you know 1262 00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:42,799 something's wrong and and probably 1263 00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:44,720 everybody else does too 1264 00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:47,839 absolutely um a guy i didn't drink 1265 00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:49,520 everyone was drinking beer or having 1266 00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:52,319 wine and just having a really good time 1267 00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:54,960 and uh i i spent over 100 bucks on that 1268 00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:57,440 plate and i didn't i didn't eat like 10 1269 00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:01,040 of it so um yeah i 1270 00:55:04,069 --> 00:55:03,040 and then when we got to the airport in 1271 00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:04,079 germany 1272 00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:06,400 uh i started breaking out in a fever 1273 00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:07,760 like when we got on the plane 1274 00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:09,440 on the flight home is when i really 1275 00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:11,920 noticed how bad i was feeling like i 1276 00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:15,280 broke out a fever and uh just cold 1277 00:55:18,309 --> 00:55:16,480 sweats and 1278 00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:18,319 on the fly home i was really really 1279 00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:20,480 worried and i i knew it was something 1280 00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,119 serious 1281 00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:23,280 yeah and we're good that's exactly what 1282 00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:24,720 we're going to pick up uh 1283 00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:26,319 after the break so we'll stop right 1284 00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:28,400 there let me ask you a couple of quick 1285 00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:31,040 questions before the break 1286 00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:34,079 favorite drummer it's 1287 00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:37,359 john bottom oh yeah okay okay it's not a 1288 00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:39,359 dumb question it's actually a legit 1289 00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:40,160 question 1290 00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:43,280 and i'm glad you said john bonham all 1291 00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:43,839 right 1292 00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,960 uh uh how um 1293 00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:48,720 when we talk about technical drumming 1294 00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:50,559 and by the way today's ginger baker's 1295 00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:51,520 birthday 1296 00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:54,160 hey yeah yeah right right and it's a 1297 00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:55,839 cool night to be on the show 1298 00:56:01,430 --> 00:55:59,520 when you look at uh john bonham 1299 00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:01,440 most people don't look at him as being a 1300 00:56:06,549 --> 00:56:03,119 technical drummer 1301 00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:06,559 he's absolutely one of the most insane 1302 00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:09,040 things that ever walked this planet 1303 00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:09,599 nearly 1304 00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:15,520 every time i hear somebody play uh 1305 00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:17,520 bonham or trying to play zeppelin 1306 00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,559 it's never quite right is it absolutely 1307 00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:22,160 even his own son 1308 00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:24,880 jason bonham who does a great job but 1309 00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,000 even he can't 1310 00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:28,480 replicate it perfectly it's it's really 1311 00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:30,480 hard it's not just the plane too it's 1312 00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:30,880 the 1313 00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:35,680 and 1314 00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:38,319 it just no other drums sound like that 1315 00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:38,799 and 1316 00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:41,200 it's it's impossible to replicate yeah i 1317 00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:42,000 was uh 1318 00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:45,040 uh i i did a copy song of 1319 00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:48,160 of zeppelin and uh uh 1320 00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:49,760 for this thing that i was recording 1321 00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:51,520 right and i decided i'm gonna play the 1322 00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:52,640 drums on this 1323 00:56:56,390 --> 00:56:55,200 right okay so this is what i thought oh 1324 00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:56,400 you know what 1325 00:57:01,190 --> 00:57:00,000 i'll just play one bar and then i'll 1326 00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:01,200 loop it for four 1327 00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:03,040 and i'll get the verse together and then 1328 00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:04,319 i'll you know and 1329 00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:07,359 okay so i go and i do that and then i 1330 00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:10,160 laid it over and i went wait a minute he 1331 00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:12,480 plays something different 1332 00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:14,640 every single bar and then i went and 1333 00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,400 listened now really listen you know it's 1334 00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:18,000 a nine minute song 1335 00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:21,680 he didn't play anything twice 1336 00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:24,400 for nine minutes man everything was just 1337 00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:27,200 a little bit different 1338 00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:29,680 that's the 70s man uh most drummers 1339 00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:30,559 played like that 1340 00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:33,440 and that's kind of a lost art nowadays 1341 00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:34,480 because like you said 1342 00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:37,520 a lot of people just play the play it 1343 00:57:41,589 --> 00:57:39,359 for four times and just loop it 1344 00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,599 like oh make it as perfect as possible 1345 00:57:45,670 --> 00:57:43,680 and as syncopated as possible 1346 00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:45,680 all the time and it just kind of loses a 1347 00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:47,280 human factor after a while 1348 00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:50,480 do you guys uh play live in the studio 1349 00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:54,960 uh no um rob our lead guitarist and 1350 00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:58,000 main songwriter he he pre-records a 1351 00:58:01,109 --> 00:58:00,640 scratch track guitar to a to a click 1352 00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:01,119 track 1353 00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:03,599 and i record my drums over that okay do 1354 00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:04,160 you play 1355 00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:07,680 do you do one pass with the drums do you 1356 00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:08,160 play 1357 00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:11,520 from beginning then i try not to 1358 00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:13,839 i mean but yeah when we listen to it 1359 00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:14,640 back 1360 00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,480 uh after i get to get through a song 1361 00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:17,920 we'll play it back and 1362 00:58:21,030 --> 00:58:19,760 you know i may not hit something quite 1363 00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:21,040 as hard as 1364 00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:22,640 uh the other time so i have to go back 1365 00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:24,640 in and punch in and and just 1366 00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:27,119 fix that up but i that's the goal though 1367 00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:29,200 is to try to get one hole taken 1368 00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:30,880 and plow right through it our guest 1369 00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:32,960 tonight is will carroll drummer for 1370 00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:34,000 death angel 1371 00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:36,880 when we come back after this break that 1372 00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:38,240 we're gonna pick up 1373 00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:41,119 the last show of the tour was canceled 1374 00:58:45,430 --> 00:58:42,640 in hamburg 1375 00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:45,440 and he gets on the plane and flies back 1376 00:58:49,510 --> 00:58:47,280 to san francisco 1377 00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:49,520 i can't imagine what he went through but 1378 00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:51,040 that's what we're gonna pick up when we 1379 00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:52,799 come back our murals jimmy church 1380 00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:54,319 this is fade to black on the game 1381 00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:56,240 changer network and kg r 1382 00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:58,559 a the planet you can follow me on 1383 00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:00,400 twitter at jchurchradio 1384 00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:04,720 will what's your twitter uh it is 1385 00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:11,990 leading priests bleeding priest we'll be 1386 00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:19,760 right back stay with us 1387 00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:22,079 this is faded black with jimmy church on 1388 00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:24,240 the game changer radio network 1389 00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:29,200 and kgra the global radio alliance 1390 00:59:32,789 --> 00:59:31,760 this is kgra digital broadcasting 1391 00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:32,799 station 1392 00:59:39,190 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01:03:34,480 hello this is serena wright taylor from 1498 01:03:37,829 --> 01:03:35,920 conscious life expo 1499 01:03:38,950 --> 01:03:37,839 and you're listening to fade to black 1500 01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:38,960 with jimmy church 1501 01:03:43,510 --> 01:03:41,200 who holds the lucky pony record for the 1502 01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:43,520 best astrological chart since nineteen 1503 01:03:48,150 --> 01:03:44,720 sixty three 1504 01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:48,160 true story this is micah hanks of the 1505 01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:49,119 graelian report 1506 01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:50,799 and you're listening to jimmy church on 1507 01:03:54,390 --> 01:03:52,880 fade to black across the globe on the 1508 01:03:56,870 --> 01:03:54,400 game changer radio network 1509 01:04:18,150 --> 01:03:56,880 and the one and only kgra radio the 1510 01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:19,910 welcome back this is fade to black i'm 1511 01:04:22,390 --> 01:04:21,760 your host jimmy church tomorrow night 1512 01:04:25,589 --> 01:04:22,400 right here 1513 01:04:29,349 --> 01:04:25,599 linda moulton howe tonight 1514 01:04:31,109 --> 01:04:29,359 death angel drummer will carroll is here 1515 01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:31,119 talking about what he went through 1516 01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:32,480 earlier this year 1517 01:04:36,309 --> 01:04:36,000 it is an amazing story and experience 1518 01:04:43,510 --> 01:04:36,319 and 1519 01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:43,520 going through this um it's uh pleasure 1520 01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:45,760 well you know i think that people need 1521 01:04:48,870 --> 01:04:46,559 to hear this 1522 01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:48,880 you know and and and it's i think it's 1523 01:04:54,470 --> 01:04:51,119 actually as simple as that 1524 01:04:57,670 --> 01:04:54,480 and the setting the stage for this 1525 01:04:58,950 --> 01:04:57,680 um you know because you see the storm 1526 01:05:00,950 --> 01:04:58,960 brewing you know uh 1527 01:05:03,029 --> 01:05:00,960 italy gets canceled hamburg gets 1528 01:05:03,829 --> 01:05:03,039 cancelled everybody's getting sick 1529 01:05:05,589 --> 01:05:03,839 around you 1530 01:05:07,349 --> 01:05:05,599 the cook gets carried out of the 1531 01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:07,359 restaurant and she's 1532 01:05:10,870 --> 01:05:10,160 yeah right and and so the storm is 1533 01:05:13,029 --> 01:05:10,880 brewing 1534 01:05:15,190 --> 01:05:13,039 but now one of the biggest nightmare 1535 01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:15,200 scenarios anybody can have 1536 01:05:21,750 --> 01:05:18,960 is now you you know you are 1537 01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:21,760 not well but now you've got to face the 1538 01:05:25,190 --> 01:05:22,960 airports 1539 01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:25,200 you've got to be sitting in a seat for 1540 01:05:29,029 --> 01:05:26,880 hours on end you've got to go through 1541 01:05:32,390 --> 01:05:29,039 customs and luggage and this and that 1542 01:05:35,190 --> 01:05:32,400 all that where that 1543 01:05:35,990 --> 01:05:35,200 uh that's the opposite that's the last 1544 01:05:39,109 --> 01:05:36,000 place you want to be 1545 01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:39,119 right oh yeah man uh 1546 01:05:43,990 --> 01:05:42,000 i just i just like i just try to stay on 1547 01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:44,000 my seat the whole flight home 1548 01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:46,720 and not try to interact with anybody but 1549 01:05:49,510 --> 01:05:47,520 you know you're in 1550 01:05:51,190 --> 01:05:49,520 like a plane that's so enclosed and 1551 01:05:53,029 --> 01:05:51,200 recirculated air so 1552 01:05:54,390 --> 01:05:53,039 i hope i didn't get anyone else sick you 1553 01:05:57,190 --> 01:05:54,400 know um 1554 01:05:58,870 --> 01:05:57,200 but i was in the the the mind frame of i 1555 01:06:00,549 --> 01:05:58,880 just want to get home you know i don't 1556 01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:00,559 want to be stuck in europe 1557 01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:03,599 uh in this situation if it is what i'm 1558 01:06:07,349 --> 01:06:05,039 worried about you know like if it 1559 01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:07,359 if i do have covert just the thought of 1560 01:06:09,990 --> 01:06:08,799 being stuck in europe would have been 1561 01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:10,000 that would have been a nightmare you 1562 01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:10,480 know 1563 01:06:14,150 --> 01:06:11,680 even though it was a nightmare when i 1564 01:06:16,549 --> 01:06:14,160 got home anyways but um 1565 01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:16,559 yeah it was really scary i just it was i 1566 01:06:19,589 --> 01:06:17,760 didn't know what to do 1567 01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:19,599 i just stayed in my seat as much as i 1568 01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:22,480 could now how many days have transpired 1569 01:06:25,510 --> 01:06:24,160 at this point from when you first 1570 01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:25,520 started to 1571 01:06:30,069 --> 01:06:28,799 feel strange to the to the plane and the 1572 01:06:33,589 --> 01:06:30,079 trip home 1573 01:06:35,270 --> 01:06:33,599 three three days right this thing came 1574 01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:35,280 on like 1575 01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:38,319 it it just did not relax it just swelled 1576 01:06:42,069 --> 01:06:38,640 up 1577 01:06:44,309 --> 01:06:42,079 into it to insanity right 1578 01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:44,319 i mean like i said as soon as i started 1579 01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:45,280 feeling 1580 01:06:48,549 --> 01:06:48,160 a bit off i stopped i stopped smoking 1581 01:06:51,910 --> 01:06:48,559 pot 1582 01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:51,920 i stopped drinking smoking anything uh 1583 01:06:55,589 --> 01:06:53,839 and just trying to flush it out drink as 1584 01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:55,599 much water as possible and 1585 01:07:01,430 --> 01:06:59,440 take vitamins and yeah it just got worse 1586 01:07:02,470 --> 01:07:01,440 by the day and then eventually by the 1587 01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:02,480 hour 1588 01:07:08,470 --> 01:07:06,799 and okay now now you land in the united 1589 01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:08,480 no actually let's go all the way to san 1590 01:07:13,190 --> 01:07:09,920 francisco 1591 01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:13,200 um uh you made it right 1592 01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:16,480 yeah you make it to san francisco 1593 01:07:23,670 --> 01:07:19,680 are you walking at this point 1594 01:07:25,349 --> 01:07:23,680 yes what take us through that 1595 01:07:26,710 --> 01:07:25,359 so i walk you through the airport yeah 1596 01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:26,720 yeah i mean i mean i 1597 01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:29,760 you know after after that long of a trip 1598 01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:33,119 and the illnesses is is taking over your 1599 01:07:37,109 --> 01:07:34,000 body 1600 01:07:40,069 --> 01:07:37,119 uh what what happened next 1601 01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:40,079 well uh you know uh we were standing in 1602 01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:42,000 line at customs uh 1603 01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:45,200 me and uh rob the lead guitarist and he 1604 01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:47,760 he was sick as well he was uh he was 1605 01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:48,640 like a little bit 1606 01:07:51,750 --> 01:07:50,640 further ahead of me he had he had the 1607 01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:51,760 sickness like 1608 01:07:54,789 --> 01:07:53,520 four or five days before i did but he 1609 01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:54,799 was still sick 1610 01:07:59,029 --> 01:07:57,200 and we were both sweating and had fevers 1611 01:08:01,510 --> 01:07:59,039 and we were just looking at each other 1612 01:08:03,349 --> 01:08:01,520 like oh my god are we gonna be able to 1613 01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:03,359 to go home we just thought they're gonna 1614 01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:04,880 pull us aside and 1615 01:08:08,309 --> 01:08:07,599 and take us away and quarantine us but 1616 01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:08,319 uh 1617 01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:11,760 i don't know how but we got through um 1618 01:08:15,349 --> 01:08:13,760 no one you know we didn't get checked 1619 01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:15,359 for a temperature or anything like that 1620 01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:16,080 we just 1621 01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:18,799 i i can't explain it but we got through 1622 01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:20,880 and i got my bags and 1623 01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:23,440 i caught a cab and i called my better 1624 01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:24,239 half 1625 01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:27,440 leeshawn and just told her i'm 1626 01:08:31,510 --> 01:08:29,920 feeling horrible like this is the worst 1627 01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:31,520 i've ever felt since you've known me and 1628 01:08:37,510 --> 01:08:35,199 she's she's known me for 15 years 1629 01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:37,520 and when i got home she took one look at 1630 01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:39,600 me was like oh my god you look 1631 01:08:45,829 --> 01:08:42,719 awful and i went straight to bed 1632 01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:45,839 and then i was home for 1633 01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:49,359 five days maybe yeah five days and 1634 01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:51,520 it just it just the fever increased 1635 01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:52,560 every day 1636 01:08:57,269 --> 01:08:55,040 uh i was bedridden just sweating 1637 01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:57,279 profusely all the time and 1638 01:09:01,510 --> 01:08:59,839 um i just the last couple of days are a 1639 01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:01,520 blur i don't remember anything because i 1640 01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:04,560 just my fever was so out of control uh 1641 01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,960 but 1642 01:09:08,470 --> 01:09:06,799 from what lee shawn tells me i was 1643 01:09:11,110 --> 01:09:08,480 behaving really weird 1644 01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:11,120 uh i was like in a trance kind of the 1645 01:09:16,550 --> 01:09:13,120 city on the bed indian style 1646 01:09:18,789 --> 01:09:16,560 in a trance just staring at the wall um 1647 01:09:20,229 --> 01:09:18,799 like i was meditating and i'm i'm i'm 1648 01:09:21,749 --> 01:09:20,239 not that kind of a guy 1649 01:09:23,829 --> 01:09:21,759 she's never seen me do anything like 1650 01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:23,839 that before i never have you know i'm 1651 01:09:30,309 --> 01:09:24,400 just 1652 01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:30,319 and um once i started struggling to 1653 01:09:32,789 --> 01:09:31,679 breathe i was struggling to breathe when 1654 01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:32,799 i was sleeping but 1655 01:09:39,669 --> 01:09:36,239 i also have sleep apnea so that wasn't 1656 01:09:41,910 --> 01:09:39,679 too out of the norm but um 1657 01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:41,920 once i started struggling to breathe she 1658 01:09:44,149 --> 01:09:43,359 was like okay we have to take you to the 1659 01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:44,159 hospital 1660 01:09:47,669 --> 01:09:45,839 and i don't remember any of that i don't 1661 01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:47,679 remember going to the hospital 1662 01:09:52,630 --> 01:09:50,880 or being at the hospital um 1663 01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:52,640 apparently i was texting people and 1664 01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:53,920 letting them know that 1665 01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:55,760 i'm going to be asleep for a few days 1666 01:09:58,470 --> 01:09:57,360 they they told me they 1667 01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:58,480 they're going to have to probably put me 1668 01:10:02,390 --> 01:10:00,719 in a coma because my body is going to be 1669 01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:02,400 fighting my body was fighting back the 1670 01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:03,440 ventilator 1671 01:10:09,669 --> 01:10:07,280 uh so i was coherent enough to 1672 01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:09,679 interact with my my brothers and sister 1673 01:10:15,830 --> 01:10:10,400 and 1674 01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:15,840 the next thing i remembered was waking 1675 01:10:20,229 --> 01:10:16,960 up in 1676 01:10:23,189 --> 01:10:20,239 all the dreams i had so 1677 01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:23,199 uh and i find that very interesting just 1678 01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:24,480 right there right you 1679 01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:26,640 the evidence of the text is there right 1680 01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:28,320 you have people going yeah you you were 1681 01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:29,600 texting me 1682 01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:33,679 i was i was blown away right 1683 01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:35,360 when i heard that because yeah those 1684 01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:37,840 last couple days i don't remember at all 1685 01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:41,040 okay all right it's 1686 01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:44,080 uh 12 days 12 days 1687 01:10:51,189 --> 01:10:47,440 on a medically induced 1688 01:10:52,709 --> 01:10:51,199 coma you don't remember going into the 1689 01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:52,719 coma you don't remember going to the 1690 01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:54,640 hospital 1691 01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:57,840 did it seem like when you came out of 1692 01:11:03,990 --> 01:10:59,199 the coma 1693 01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:07,669 no but i was so confused 1694 01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:09,760 i i like i said i didn't remember going 1695 01:11:14,310 --> 01:11:11,760 to the hospital so 1696 01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:14,320 when i woke up and realized i wasn't at 1697 01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:15,120 home 1698 01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:18,719 and i just saw you know tubes coming in 1699 01:11:22,149 --> 01:11:19,760 and out of me and 1700 01:11:24,470 --> 01:11:22,159 machines all around me and i was like oh 1701 01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:24,480 oh my god i'm in the hospital i think 1702 01:11:28,390 --> 01:11:26,800 and i thought i was still dreaming i 1703 01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:28,400 thought i was still in hell 1704 01:11:32,149 --> 01:11:30,000 or i thought i had gone back to hell 1705 01:11:35,669 --> 01:11:32,159 again again but uh 1706 01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:35,679 it just didn't seem real and i was i 1707 01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:37,600 i was so confused and there was a nurse 1708 01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:38,880 right there 1709 01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:40,800 and she looked pretty surprised too 1710 01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:42,480 because i was awake and 1711 01:11:48,310 --> 01:11:46,080 they thought i was gonna die um and she 1712 01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:48,320 she was when she was walking away i i 1713 01:11:52,470 --> 01:11:49,840 just kind of like 1714 01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:52,480 bumped it bumped her side with my hand 1715 01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:54,880 the most i could and i asked her if i 1716 01:11:58,149 --> 01:11:56,239 was still in hell 1717 01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:58,159 because that's just it just seems so 1718 01:12:03,430 --> 01:11:59,760 surreal and 1719 01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:03,440 she just walked away and for you okay 1720 01:12:10,310 --> 01:12:06,640 so let's uh let's go to 1721 01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:10,320 uh these these visions these dreams 1722 01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:12,880 for the first thing to come out of your 1723 01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:13,440 mouth 1724 01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:16,800 right is am i still in hell right 1725 01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:20,880 i'm assuming that that's i don't want to 1726 01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:22,560 put words in your mouth 1727 01:12:30,870 --> 01:12:29,350 that's what it seemed like when i was uh 1728 01:12:34,470 --> 01:12:30,880 when i was under 1729 01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:34,480 um like when i woke up i couldn't stop 1730 01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:35,360 thinking about it 1731 01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:38,880 like for the the the whole following day 1732 01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:40,159 i i couldn't 1733 01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:42,159 decipher it and i was just trying to one 1734 01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:43,600 figure out if it was 1735 01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:46,239 uh real or not and you know what's 1736 01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:46,800 happening 1737 01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:48,560 they had already doctors had already 1738 01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:50,400 told me um 1739 01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:53,760 i was in the hospital and uh 1740 01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:56,080 i was rushed to the hospital 12 days ago 1741 01:12:59,110 --> 01:12:57,600 and they didn't tell me i was in a coma 1742 01:13:01,030 --> 01:12:59,120 for 12 days i didn't put two two 1743 01:13:03,830 --> 01:13:01,040 together when they finally did tell me 1744 01:13:06,310 --> 01:13:03,840 i was in a coma for 12 days i i almost 1745 01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:06,320 went into shock i was like oh my god 1746 01:13:12,149 --> 01:13:09,600 and um yeah like the 1747 01:13:13,189 --> 01:13:12,159 the the memories of going to hell are 1748 01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:13,199 still burned and 1749 01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:15,920 burned in my brain like it was so vivid 1750 01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:18,480 it was so real and i was confused 1751 01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:21,440 uh like i i just assumed i had died i 1752 01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:23,120 was like wow i'm in hell like 1753 01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:25,120 when did this happen how did this happen 1754 01:13:30,310 --> 01:13:26,880 all of a sudden i'm in hell 1755 01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:30,320 so i just i guess i assumed i was dead 1756 01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:33,360 what was uh what did you see when uh 1757 01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:36,480 describe uh you know these 1758 01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:40,320 vivid images what was hell like 1759 01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:42,560 you know what did you see it was a 1760 01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:44,320 bummer 1761 01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:48,159 um i shoot going down to hell is 1762 01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:49,840 i don't remember that that well i just 1763 01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:51,360 remember kind of like falling into a 1764 01:13:56,950 --> 01:13:52,480 black 1765 01:14:00,470 --> 01:13:56,960 abyss uh but when i was in hell 1766 01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:00,480 i was laying naked on like a 1767 01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:03,120 like a stalactite stalagmite type of 1768 01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:04,719 cave like i was on the hard rock 1769 01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:08,800 floor and uh there were people mowing it 1770 01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:09,920 all around me like 1771 01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:11,920 like not mo not moles of ecstasy but 1772 01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:13,199 bones of agony 1773 01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:15,920 all around me it was very cavernous and 1774 01:14:19,990 --> 01:14:16,800 just lots of 1775 01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:20,000 shadows and and very dark 1776 01:14:26,229 --> 01:14:23,040 uh and there was a 1777 01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:26,239 there was a demon type of 1778 01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:29,280 being a female uh demon 1779 01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:32,080 sitting on some kind of molten rock 1780 01:14:36,310 --> 01:14:33,280 throne 1781 01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:36,320 uh and she was uh 1782 01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:39,920 she was her skin was all red and 1783 01:14:43,590 --> 01:14:42,400 she was kind of like melding with the 1784 01:14:46,870 --> 01:14:43,600 throne like she was 1785 01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:46,880 dipping in and out of it kind of and 1786 01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:50,960 she had glowing yellow eyes fangs 1787 01:14:59,830 --> 01:14:57,750 she was hideous she wasn't sexy or some 1788 01:15:02,709 --> 01:14:59,840 kind of comic book looking 1789 01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:02,719 uh you know villainous nothing like that 1790 01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:03,679 she was a 1791 01:15:07,189 --> 01:15:06,000 i didn't want to look at her she was so 1792 01:15:08,630 --> 01:15:07,199 horrifying 1793 01:15:12,470 --> 01:15:08,640 and i just wanted to get away but i 1794 01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:12,480 couldn't move because i was this giant 1795 01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:16,080 this giant blob like creature uh 1796 01:15:19,669 --> 01:15:18,880 a mix between like a smaller jab of the 1797 01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:19,679 hut 1798 01:15:22,790 --> 01:15:21,920 or the the guy at the end of weird 1799 01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:22,800 science uh 1800 01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:24,800 chet when he turns into that big blob 1801 01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:27,280 thing yeah right right 1802 01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:30,560 so something like that and um 1803 01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:33,920 and i was being punished for sloth 1804 01:15:40,149 --> 01:15:37,840 and uh and to make things worse i was 1805 01:15:40,390 --> 01:15:40,159 vomiting blood i kept on vomiting blood 1806 01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:40,400 and 1807 01:15:51,990 --> 01:15:48,400 during my 1808 01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:52,000 um coma so that's kind of weird 1809 01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:55,760 um and uh 1810 01:16:02,229 --> 01:15:59,280 i died in hell and then i 1811 01:16:03,669 --> 01:16:02,239 shot up up to heaven like i remember 1812 01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:03,679 being lifted 1813 01:16:07,669 --> 01:16:06,239 and seeing the cavern going away beneath 1814 01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:07,679 my feet 1815 01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:11,040 and um i went up into the sky 1816 01:16:15,990 --> 01:16:13,840 or like just some kind of light place 1817 01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:16,000 and that was scary too i didn't want to 1818 01:16:20,149 --> 01:16:17,760 be there either i didn't like it 1819 01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:20,159 i i didn't like being dead you know i 1820 01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:22,000 just i i 1821 01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:24,560 i felt horrible i i wanted to say bye to 1822 01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:25,440 everybody 1823 01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:26,960 i never got a chance to say a lot of 1824 01:16:31,669 --> 01:16:28,640 things to do a lot of things so i was 1825 01:16:33,669 --> 01:16:31,679 feeling like a weird sense of regret and 1826 01:16:35,590 --> 01:16:33,679 and guilt kind of it was it was a 1827 01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:35,600 horrible feeling being up in heaven too 1828 01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:38,159 i didn't like it the angels were zipping 1829 01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:39,440 around me and they were really 1830 01:16:45,430 --> 01:16:42,880 vicious and mean looking and it's just 1831 01:16:47,270 --> 01:16:45,440 it wasn't relaxing and peaceful at all 1832 01:16:50,229 --> 01:16:47,280 but that didn't last very long and 1833 01:16:52,790 --> 01:16:50,239 the next thing i remember like i was in 1834 01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:52,800 a nightclub with a bunch of friends 1835 01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:55,679 in like modesto or fresno or somewhere 1836 01:17:00,390 --> 01:16:58,239 in the middle of nowhere california 1837 01:17:01,910 --> 01:17:00,400 and i was wondering what the hell am i 1838 01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:01,920 doing here you know 1839 01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:04,640 maybe i was back in hell but yeah 1840 01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:05,760 modesto 1841 01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:07,440 that'll do it for you especially in 1842 01:17:13,030 --> 01:17:09,199 august um 1843 01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:13,040 yeah now this is and because 1844 01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:16,320 you don't know uh that 1845 01:17:22,709 --> 01:17:20,000 you're in in a medically induced coma 1846 01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:22,719 you can't get out of this dream right 1847 01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:24,159 you can't wake up 1848 01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:26,239 you don't know this though and one of 1849 01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:28,000 the freaky things about 1850 01:17:34,070 --> 01:17:31,120 having a scary dream is 1851 01:17:35,430 --> 01:17:34,080 is getting out of it and and you know 1852 01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:35,440 that when you do hope 1853 01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:38,320 it was just a dream but for you that is 1854 01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:40,080 a real nightmare 1855 01:17:46,709 --> 01:17:43,520 you can't get out of this and it 1856 01:17:50,310 --> 01:17:46,719 is continuing for you 1857 01:17:54,229 --> 01:17:50,320 um did the uh 1858 01:17:56,229 --> 01:17:54,239 did the did the trip to hell 1859 01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:56,239 seem like i'm just gonna ask directly 1860 01:18:03,030 --> 01:17:58,400 did it seem non-ending 1861 01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:03,040 did it seem unescapable yes absolutely 1862 01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:06,880 um i mean time's kind of a hard 1863 01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:09,760 hard thing to gauge uh when i'm seeing 1864 01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:11,440 all these bizarre visions and 1865 01:18:15,590 --> 01:18:14,400 being in a coma but it's yeah it just 1866 01:18:18,310 --> 01:18:15,600 seemed like 1867 01:18:19,750 --> 01:18:18,320 that was going to be uh my eternity it 1868 01:18:21,830 --> 01:18:19,760 felt it felt like it was 1869 01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:21,840 it was the end and this is this is how 1870 01:18:25,830 --> 01:18:22,880 it ends you know 1871 01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:25,840 it was it was awful so like when i woke 1872 01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:26,480 up in the 1873 01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:28,960 hospital bed i just thought i had just 1874 01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:31,280 dipped into another nightmare you know 1875 01:18:36,070 --> 01:18:34,159 did you uh did you ever uh get up were 1876 01:18:40,229 --> 01:18:36,080 you able to move around in hell 1877 01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:40,239 at all no so i was just laying there 1878 01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:42,239 that that that's that's what hell would 1879 01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:43,840 be i guess wouldn't it 1880 01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:47,280 you know you so um the lady 1881 01:18:54,149 --> 01:18:50,640 the the the female demon um 1882 01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:54,159 was she looking at you yes 1883 01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:56,960 and and you just had that for eternity 1884 01:18:59,590 --> 01:18:57,360 right 1885 01:19:00,630 --> 01:18:59,600 that's it she she was laughing she was 1886 01:19:02,229 --> 01:19:00,640 like 1887 01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:02,239 laughing her ass off she was looking at 1888 01:19:06,550 --> 01:19:04,000 me and just laughing and laughing 1889 01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:06,560 and the more i more blood i threw up the 1890 01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:08,320 the harder she'd laugh 1891 01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:11,840 incredible incredible now 1892 01:19:19,110 --> 01:19:16,080 with um i'm gonna say this too as well 1893 01:19:22,310 --> 01:19:19,120 death angel for me uh the name 1894 01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:22,320 for the band is a cool name but but 1895 01:19:26,229 --> 01:19:24,560 but it implies something that i don't 1896 01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:26,239 think death angel is 1897 01:19:31,910 --> 01:19:29,280 right right now i could be way 1898 01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:31,920 off here but death angel's gone through 1899 01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:34,719 phases of different musical styles and 1900 01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:38,400 and if you really look at the lyrics 1901 01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:41,360 or things but you know i know the band's 1902 01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:43,760 called death angel everybody 1903 01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:46,960 but there's actually a positivity 1904 01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:50,080 that is what the band is is about 1905 01:19:53,750 --> 01:19:53,280 am i wrong in saying it that way no not 1906 01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:53,760 at all 1907 01:20:00,149 --> 01:19:57,360 uh ever since uh their second album they 1908 01:20:01,510 --> 01:20:00,159 they dropped the whole like satanic 1909 01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:01,520 lyrics or 1910 01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:04,480 you know this uber uber violet lyrics 1911 01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:06,560 the first album's chock full of them 1912 01:20:09,590 --> 01:20:07,920 but you know they were young like 1913 01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:09,600 everyone's first thrash album is the 1914 01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:10,800 most violent 1915 01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:12,800 right but uh yeah but from their second 1916 01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:13,920 album on their 1917 01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:16,080 their lyrics have been on a more 1918 01:20:18,950 --> 01:20:17,199 positive uh 1919 01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:18,960 trip for sure especially since i've 1920 01:20:22,229 --> 01:20:20,560 joined the band 1921 01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:22,239 i think mark has a lyricist has 1922 01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:24,320 flourished in the last like three or 1923 01:20:29,110 --> 01:20:25,600 four albums 1924 01:20:30,070 --> 01:20:29,120 and rob too now but there are people out 1925 01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:30,080 there that would 1926 01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:33,040 go you know that would hear this uh you 1927 01:20:36,070 --> 01:20:34,960 know these visions and the bad death 1928 01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:36,080 angel the drummer 1929 01:20:40,790 --> 01:20:37,679 well you know what he asked for it they 1930 01:20:43,030 --> 01:20:40,800 were saying satanic right 1931 01:20:45,350 --> 01:20:43,040 they want to go down that road but they 1932 01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:45,360 actually don't understand 1933 01:20:50,070 --> 01:20:48,080 uh who you are or what the band is about 1934 01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:50,080 but let's back up let's back up before 1935 01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:51,440 2009. 1936 01:20:57,910 --> 01:20:55,440 did you ever did you did you ever dabble 1937 01:20:58,709 --> 01:20:57,920 into any of the dark stuff were you 1938 01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:58,719 interested 1939 01:21:02,870 --> 01:21:00,719 in it and do you feel that maybe some of 1940 01:21:05,510 --> 01:21:02,880 this is is payback for something that 1941 01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:05,520 you may have done in the past 1942 01:21:10,950 --> 01:21:09,600 um i was never like a practicing 1943 01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:10,960 satanist and 1944 01:21:14,149 --> 01:21:12,480 trying to cast spells on people or 1945 01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:14,159 anything anything like that but 1946 01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:16,400 i did have a lot of i do have a lot of 1947 01:21:20,470 --> 01:21:17,840 books about it and i 1948 01:21:21,430 --> 01:21:20,480 i read up on it quite a bit and i had a 1949 01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:21,440 um 1950 01:21:29,830 --> 01:21:28,080 and just movies and music uh the more 1951 01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:29,840 satanic the better i just 1952 01:21:33,030 --> 01:21:31,679 i just i just liked it for some reason i 1953 01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:33,040 was attracted to it 1954 01:21:36,550 --> 01:21:35,600 um but i never did anything bad like 1955 01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:36,560 like you know 1956 01:21:41,189 --> 01:21:38,800 sacrificing an animal or anything stupid 1957 01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:41,199 like that i wasn't a satanist i was just 1958 01:21:45,350 --> 01:21:43,360 i was just interested in it and kind of 1959 01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:45,360 liked it a little too much i guess 1960 01:21:49,510 --> 01:21:47,679 so in that aspect i don't think i'm 1961 01:21:53,830 --> 01:21:49,520 being punished for that or 1962 01:21:55,270 --> 01:21:53,840 i regret anything about that but um 1963 01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:55,280 i mean i was a bastard when i was a 1964 01:21:59,669 --> 01:21:57,440 teenager so i just you know i 1965 01:22:01,110 --> 01:21:59,679 i did a lot of stuff i regret when i was 1966 01:22:04,229 --> 01:22:01,120 a kid so 1967 01:22:07,590 --> 01:22:04,239 um maybe karma finally got me you know i 1968 01:22:09,990 --> 01:22:07,600 i believe in karma that's for sure um 1969 01:22:11,189 --> 01:22:10,000 but on a spiritual or evil level i i 1970 01:22:12,390 --> 01:22:11,199 don't think i'm being punished or 1971 01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:12,400 anything like that 1972 01:22:18,470 --> 01:22:15,920 now uh uh how 1973 01:22:20,149 --> 01:22:18,480 how have you changed and i know that's a 1974 01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:20,159 broad stroke of the pen 1975 01:22:28,149 --> 01:22:23,199 right but there is there is 1976 01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:28,159 will at the steakhouse in hamburg right 1977 01:22:33,830 --> 01:22:31,360 there's will today 1978 01:22:34,709 --> 01:22:33,840 has there been a transformation 1979 01:22:38,229 --> 01:22:34,719 absolutely 1980 01:22:42,629 --> 01:22:38,239 um you know before this all happened 1981 01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:42,639 uh i i i write music in in my other 1982 01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:44,800 bands and i write lyrics that would be 1983 01:22:49,030 --> 01:22:45,920 very 1984 01:22:51,030 --> 01:22:49,040 you know just uh beyond just 1985 01:22:52,709 --> 01:22:51,040 like evil lyrics they were just like 1986 01:22:56,070 --> 01:22:52,719 blasphemous like just 1987 01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:56,080 totally ripping christ apart and just 1988 01:23:02,629 --> 01:22:59,120 uh ripping god apart 1989 01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:02,639 and it's really really vicious lyrics uh 1990 01:23:07,030 --> 01:23:05,040 i will i don't ever see myself writing 1991 01:23:10,790 --> 01:23:07,040 lyrics like that ever again 1992 01:23:13,830 --> 01:23:10,800 um but aside from that i still listen to 1993 01:23:15,430 --> 01:23:13,840 all the evil bands and uh and i still 1994 01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:15,440 watch evil movies and 1995 01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:20,159 i'm into it still you know but i just i 1996 01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:22,560 take uh god a lot more seriously if 1997 01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:23,920 there is a god 1998 01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:27,920 uh i i'm definitely 1999 01:23:31,910 --> 01:23:31,120 cautious now i i i don't take anything 2000 01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:31,920 too lightly 2001 01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:34,320 no it's you know what it's better to uh 2002 01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:35,440 play the odds 2003 01:23:42,709 --> 01:23:39,600 in my opinion it's better to play 2004 01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:42,719 you just never know you know what i 2005 01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:45,360 i say this all the time will and i joke 2006 01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:46,080 about it 2007 01:23:50,550 --> 01:23:49,520 but it's it's really the truth if you 2008 01:23:53,590 --> 01:23:50,560 take not 2009 01:23:56,229 --> 01:23:53,600 somebody satanic or is it no that no 2010 01:23:57,510 --> 01:23:56,239 go the opposite of that go the most 2011 01:24:00,310 --> 01:23:57,520 atheist person 2012 01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:00,320 in the world right there there's no god 2013 01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:02,560 there's no heaven there's no hell 2014 01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:05,360 there's nothing when you die you just 2015 01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:05,760 you're 2016 01:24:12,070 --> 01:24:08,880 dirt in the ground and it's over right 2017 01:24:13,189 --> 01:24:12,080 take that person and and the plane is 2018 01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:13,199 going down 2019 01:24:18,310 --> 01:24:15,600 right the ship is sinking that's the 2020 01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:18,320 most spiritual person on planet earth 2021 01:24:24,950 --> 01:24:21,840 totally right there i got it all wrong 2022 01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:24,960 i'm sorry right yeah yeah 2023 01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:26,560 you got to play the odds man play the 2024 01:24:29,750 --> 01:24:28,960 odds it's okay it's okay to be a good 2025 01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:29,760 person 2026 01:24:34,629 --> 01:24:33,120 you know yeah when i uh did my first 2027 01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:34,639 interview that the one that kind of went 2028 01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:35,600 viral like 2029 01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:38,320 i was quoted saying like i i believe in 2030 01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:39,520 a higher power 2031 01:24:45,110 --> 01:24:42,960 and i do i i believe that prayer 2032 01:24:47,030 --> 01:24:45,120 does make a difference you know not that 2033 01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:47,040 i'm just discrediting the science end of 2034 01:24:50,390 --> 01:24:47,440 it all 2035 01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:50,400 of course the doctor saved my life but i 2036 01:24:53,270 --> 01:24:50,800 think 2037 01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:53,280 everyone all around the world who were 2038 01:24:57,030 --> 01:24:54,960 praying for me everybody who was praying 2039 01:24:58,870 --> 01:24:57,040 for me and lighting candles and 2040 01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:58,880 just had me in their in their hearts i 2041 01:25:01,910 --> 01:25:00,719 think that really helped too 2042 01:25:03,830 --> 01:25:01,920 and that's something i never would have 2043 01:25:06,550 --> 01:25:03,840 considered or even believed in or 2044 01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:06,560 or anything before this all happened but 2045 01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:07,520 that's definitely 2046 01:25:14,709 --> 01:25:10,719 i've that's changed me uh i i take 2047 01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:14,719 prayer a lot more seriously now and um 2048 01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:17,840 and health-wise i'm just uh 2049 01:25:24,070 --> 01:25:20,880 drinking way less i quit drinking for 2050 01:25:26,070 --> 01:25:24,080 uh two months about two months and uh 2051 01:25:27,189 --> 01:25:26,080 now i'm drinking wine here and there but 2052 01:25:29,110 --> 01:25:27,199 i i 2053 01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:29,120 i don't plan to ever go back to the way 2054 01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:30,400 i was before 2055 01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:32,320 drinking uh a bottle of whiskey or 2056 01:25:37,350 --> 01:25:34,239 drinking any whiskey for that matter 2057 01:25:38,070 --> 01:25:37,360 um let me let me ask you this before the 2058 01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:38,080 break 2059 01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:41,360 uh 12 days in a coma it's not a 2060 01:25:47,750 --> 01:25:44,639 horribly long time but for a musician 2061 01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:47,760 or a drummer uh 2062 01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:49,679 dude what was it like what was it like 2063 01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:50,960 to get out of bed 2064 01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:53,040 what were your legs like you need you 2065 01:25:57,270 --> 01:25:54,880 need that double kick drum action 2066 01:25:58,229 --> 01:25:57,280 uh what happened i had to learn how to 2067 01:26:00,790 --> 01:25:58,239 walk again 2068 01:26:01,669 --> 01:26:00,800 uh i couldn't i couldn't hold my own 2069 01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:01,679 weight 2070 01:26:06,550 --> 01:26:04,880 for the life of me so i was bedridden 2071 01:26:09,669 --> 01:26:06,560 for 2072 01:26:11,270 --> 01:26:09,679 shoot like four days after my coma 2073 01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:11,280 and finally i started getting physical 2074 01:26:16,149 --> 01:26:12,880 therapy but i had 2075 01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:16,159 i had to be assisted everywhere i went 2076 01:26:19,669 --> 01:26:18,159 uh and when i left the hospital i was on 2077 01:26:22,149 --> 01:26:19,679 a walker still 2078 01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:22,159 and i had a physical therapist coming 2079 01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:23,920 over a nurse coming over 2080 01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:27,040 to show me exercises to to walk again 2081 01:26:31,030 --> 01:26:29,440 and i did it pretty quickly i i stuck to 2082 01:26:34,149 --> 01:26:31,040 it i was determined 2083 01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:34,159 and i was walking by like the end of the 2084 01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:34,560 week 2085 01:26:40,149 --> 01:26:37,840 once i got home and um 2086 01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:40,159 i didn't play drums for another three 2087 01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:41,040 weeks 2088 01:26:44,870 --> 01:26:43,760 or maybe even a month i just had to make 2089 01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:44,880 sure i was healthy 2090 01:26:48,629 --> 01:26:47,040 before i could leave the house and go to 2091 01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:48,639 a studio or anything like that 2092 01:26:52,629 --> 01:26:50,880 and once i felt confident to do that i 2093 01:26:54,629 --> 01:26:52,639 went to my drum kit 2094 01:26:55,750 --> 01:26:54,639 uh in san francisco at my studio in san 2095 01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:55,760 francisco and 2096 01:27:00,149 --> 01:26:58,800 um it came back almost immediately i 2097 01:27:03,189 --> 01:27:00,159 couldn't believe 2098 01:27:03,990 --> 01:27:03,199 uh how easily it did come back i mean i 2099 01:27:06,790 --> 01:27:04,000 don't want to say it was 2100 01:27:08,709 --> 01:27:06,800 easy but i was expecting it to be a 2101 01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,719 struggle to get back to 2102 01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:10,639 to speed or even half of where i was 2103 01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:12,880 before but um 2104 01:27:16,229 --> 01:27:15,040 it only took a couple of practices and i 2105 01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:16,239 started feeling 2106 01:27:20,229 --> 01:27:18,480 really good again behind the kids so 2107 01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:20,239 that that was the easy part but the the 2108 01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:21,440 walking part 2109 01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:23,920 was uh was horrible that was the worst 2110 01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:25,440 of it all actually not being able to 2111 01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:26,400 walk 2112 01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:28,960 uh man i can only imagine what people 2113 01:27:32,229 --> 01:27:30,480 have to go through 2114 01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:32,239 for being in a coma for a year you know 2115 01:27:37,350 --> 01:27:33,520 i mean right ease 2116 01:27:40,149 --> 01:27:37,360 right geez right right and and certainly 2117 01:27:40,709 --> 01:27:40,159 you know when you're a musician guitar 2118 01:27:42,629 --> 01:27:40,719 player 2119 01:27:44,229 --> 01:27:42,639 doesn't matter you know drummer and you 2120 01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:44,239 go through something like that the 2121 01:27:47,590 --> 01:27:45,520 first thing you're gonna think about is 2122 01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:47,600 man can i still play 2123 01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:51,280 right can i still do it and 2124 01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:53,360 wow and the not knowing but she got on 2125 01:27:57,189 --> 01:27:55,360 the saddle pretty quick 2126 01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:57,199 yeah man it was a i was pleasantly 2127 01:28:00,149 --> 01:27:59,040 surprised i didn't know which way it was 2128 01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:00,159 gonna go 2129 01:28:03,830 --> 01:28:03,360 um i had a drum pad at home so i was 2130 01:28:05,510 --> 01:28:03,840 just 2131 01:28:07,189 --> 01:28:05,520 doing my paradiddles or you know 2132 01:28:09,110 --> 01:28:07,199 whatever so my upper 2133 01:28:11,030 --> 01:28:09,120 upper half of my body felt good but i 2134 01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:11,040 still didn't know what my double bass is 2135 01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:11,760 going to be like 2136 01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:14,639 or even my single kick you know and i 2137 01:28:17,750 --> 01:28:16,480 was really worried about my lungs i was 2138 01:28:18,790 --> 01:28:17,760 i thought i was going to get winded 2139 01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:18,800 really quick 2140 01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:21,600 quickly or uh just be out of breath or 2141 01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:23,040 my heart might feel funny because my 2142 01:28:27,830 --> 01:28:24,880 heart took some damage 2143 01:28:29,350 --> 01:28:27,840 from the heart failure and so there was 2144 01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:29,360 a lot of questions and 2145 01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:32,480 i was nervous but uh after an hour of 2146 01:28:35,510 --> 01:28:33,280 playing i 2147 01:28:37,270 --> 01:28:35,520 wasn't winded and my lungs felt fine my 2148 01:28:40,310 --> 01:28:37,280 breathing was okay 2149 01:28:42,550 --> 01:28:40,320 and um then a week or two after that i 2150 01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:42,560 got a clean bill of health for my heart 2151 01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:44,719 my heart i fully recovered so 2152 01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:46,320 that was one less thing to worry about 2153 01:28:50,310 --> 01:28:48,159 when i started playing more 2154 01:28:51,590 --> 01:28:50,320 strenuous drums or playing for longer 2155 01:28:53,189 --> 01:28:51,600 periods of time 2156 01:28:55,030 --> 01:28:53,199 and things are going good right now 2157 01:28:56,550 --> 01:28:55,040 though it feels good you know what 2158 01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:56,560 this is what's funny i got to take a 2159 01:29:00,709 --> 01:28:59,120 break but now you're that guy 2160 01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:00,719 and this is what i mean you're that guy 2161 01:29:05,270 --> 01:29:02,560 you know a couple of kids over 2162 01:29:06,390 --> 01:29:05,280 you know i wonder what hell is like well 2163 01:29:09,910 --> 01:29:06,400 you know what 2164 01:29:11,430 --> 01:29:09,920 go ask him right there that's that's the 2165 01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:11,440 guy you need to go and talk to 2166 01:29:15,030 --> 01:29:13,040 will stay right there we need to take a 2167 01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:15,040 break this is fade to black 2168 01:29:20,790 --> 01:29:18,639 now will we we talked about the 2169 01:29:22,950 --> 01:29:20,800 you know what's down below i want to 2170 01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:22,960 talk about what you saw up above too as 2171 01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:24,159 well that's very interesting 2172 01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:26,560 this is fade to black i'm yours jimmy 2173 01:29:29,750 --> 01:29:28,000 church will carroll 2174 01:29:31,750 --> 01:29:29,760 drummer for death angel is with us 2175 01:29:44,790 --> 01:29:31,760 tonight we'll be right back after this 2176 01:29:51,030 --> 01:29:47,910 way out here we listen to jimmy church 2177 01:29:52,870 --> 01:29:51,040 you're listening to fade to black 2178 01:29:54,950 --> 01:29:52,880 always on the edge of the hottest 2179 01:30:12,870 --> 01:29:54,960 alternative talk jimmy church 2180 01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:14,950 do you want to be an official fate or 2181 01:30:19,030 --> 01:30:16,960 not of course you do 2182 01:30:20,550 --> 01:30:19,040 this is jimmy churchill fade to black 2183 01:30:24,310 --> 01:30:20,560 just go to our membership 2184 01:30:27,030 --> 01:30:24,320 section at jimmychurchradio.com 2185 01:30:29,270 --> 01:30:27,040 come join us for the star works ufos and 2186 01:30:31,270 --> 01:30:29,280 artificial intelligence conference 2187 01:30:34,229 --> 01:30:31,280 november 6th 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right now for the free telepath 2265 01:33:32,310 --> 01:33:30,639 newsletter at paranormal dot radio 2266 01:33:34,790 --> 01:33:32,320 that's paranormal dot 2267 01:33:36,149 --> 01:33:34,800 radio including the network you're 2268 01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:36,159 listening to right now 2269 01:33:39,590 --> 01:33:39,040 the paranormal radio app free in google 2270 01:33:43,830 --> 01:33:39,600 play 2271 01:33:50,629 --> 01:33:45,830 you are listening to fade to black with 2272 01:33:53,110 --> 01:33:50,639 jimmy church on the game changer network 2273 01:33:54,229 --> 01:33:53,120 hi i'm reese vance you're listening to 2274 01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:54,239 jimmy church 2275 01:33:58,709 --> 01:33:57,360 this is revolution the revolution will 2276 01:34:02,830 --> 01:33:58,719 not be televised 2277 01:34:45,189 --> 01:34:02,840 the revolution is on radio 2278 01:34:48,629 --> 01:34:46,629 welcome back fade to black i'm your host 2279 01:34:50,950 --> 01:34:48,639 jimmy church 2280 01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:50,960 tonight will carroll the drummer for the 2281 01:34:55,669 --> 01:34:52,800 band death angel is with us 2282 01:34:56,390 --> 01:34:55,679 and tomorrow night thursday linda 2283 01:34:59,590 --> 01:34:56,400 moulton howe 2284 01:35:00,070 --> 01:34:59,600 joins us and right before the break as 2285 01:35:02,870 --> 01:35:00,080 we were 2286 01:35:03,510 --> 01:35:02,880 going through uh will's visions and by 2287 01:35:06,310 --> 01:35:03,520 the way 2288 01:35:07,430 --> 01:35:06,320 everybody this this happened over 12 2289 01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:07,440 days he was in a 2290 01:35:11,189 --> 01:35:09,760 medically induced coma in a hospital in 2291 01:35:13,910 --> 01:35:11,199 san francisco 2292 01:35:14,550 --> 01:35:13,920 uh suffering from and fighting and 2293 01:35:17,590 --> 01:35:14,560 battling 2294 01:35:20,629 --> 01:35:17,600 uh covet 19 at this point 2295 01:35:22,390 --> 01:35:20,639 you don't really know what's going on uh 2296 01:35:25,750 --> 01:35:22,400 during those 12 days will 2297 01:35:30,070 --> 01:35:25,760 and you you describe to us 2298 01:35:34,470 --> 01:35:30,080 you know hell and your visions of that 2299 01:35:37,350 --> 01:35:34,480 very very vivid i mean i've never heard 2300 01:35:37,669 --> 01:35:37,360 uh those types of uh descriptions you 2301 01:35:40,310 --> 01:35:37,679 know 2302 01:35:41,990 --> 01:35:40,320 first off you were there you you are 2303 01:35:44,390 --> 01:35:42,000 going through this it's something else 2304 01:35:46,310 --> 01:35:44,400 to hear from somebody else that has had 2305 01:35:49,590 --> 01:35:46,320 something similar but 2306 01:35:52,310 --> 01:35:49,600 um what is interesting to me 2307 01:35:53,030 --> 01:35:52,320 is there was a cycle that happened here 2308 01:36:03,590 --> 01:35:53,040 you 2309 01:36:06,709 --> 01:36:03,600 right now how did how 2310 01:36:07,990 --> 01:36:06,719 how did that happen were you invited did 2311 01:36:11,510 --> 01:36:08,000 you just 2312 01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:11,520 you know what was the transition 2313 01:36:18,149 --> 01:36:15,040 i shot up really quick once i uh 2314 01:36:22,390 --> 01:36:18,159 died in hell from a heart attack 2315 01:36:24,310 --> 01:36:22,400 i just shot up into the air i could see 2316 01:36:26,070 --> 01:36:24,320 i couldn't see myself in the hospital 2317 01:36:28,310 --> 01:36:26,080 bed but i could see my 2318 01:36:30,149 --> 01:36:28,320 my corpse in hell like when i was 2319 01:36:33,030 --> 01:36:30,159 shooting away i could look down and 2320 01:36:34,070 --> 01:36:33,040 i was above it shooting up into the sky 2321 01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:34,080 and it was just 2322 01:36:37,910 --> 01:36:37,280 uh just nothing but white it was just 2323 01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:37,920 like a 2324 01:36:42,149 --> 01:36:40,000 big bright light this everything was 2325 01:36:43,990 --> 01:36:42,159 white um 2326 01:36:46,229 --> 01:36:44,000 and there were angels flying around and 2327 01:36:48,310 --> 01:36:46,239 they looked like uh 2328 01:36:49,350 --> 01:36:48,320 like i guess gargoyles maybe but they 2329 01:36:50,629 --> 01:36:49,360 were they were really 2330 01:36:52,629 --> 01:36:50,639 really frightening and they weren't 2331 01:36:53,910 --> 01:36:52,639 friendly and they were zipping all 2332 01:36:56,629 --> 01:36:53,920 around me 2333 01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:56,639 and i i just felt uh tense up there i 2334 01:37:04,070 --> 01:36:57,360 didn't 2335 01:37:06,310 --> 01:37:04,080 and there was like a spirit i guess 2336 01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:06,320 in front of me like some kind of being 2337 01:37:11,189 --> 01:37:09,600 the the heaven part's not quite as vivid 2338 01:37:13,430 --> 01:37:11,199 but there was a being in front of me and 2339 01:37:15,030 --> 01:37:13,440 i was asking it to bring me back home to 2340 01:37:17,510 --> 01:37:15,040 bring me back to earth 2341 01:37:19,270 --> 01:37:17,520 i wan i don't want to be here anymore 2342 01:37:23,109 --> 01:37:19,280 and he was ignoring me 2343 01:37:27,189 --> 01:37:23,119 and then around me uh there were 2344 01:37:30,709 --> 01:37:27,199 like people and angels i guess uh 2345 01:37:32,149 --> 01:37:30,719 having a huge party like a caligula type 2346 01:37:35,750 --> 01:37:32,159 of scene like an orgy 2347 01:37:37,910 --> 01:37:35,760 kind of and it just was very 2348 01:37:38,870 --> 01:37:37,920 bizarre and i just didn't like where i 2349 01:37:41,350 --> 01:37:38,880 was i just 2350 01:37:41,990 --> 01:37:41,360 i liked it almost as less or almost as 2351 01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:42,000 much as i 2352 01:37:47,350 --> 01:37:45,600 didn't like hell um but i didn't seem 2353 01:37:48,229 --> 01:37:47,360 like i was up there for nearly as long 2354 01:37:50,950 --> 01:37:48,239 as hell 2355 01:37:52,629 --> 01:37:50,960 uh i wasn't there for too long and i 2356 01:37:57,109 --> 01:37:52,639 shot back down to earth 2357 01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:57,119 and was in that nightclub the uh 2358 01:38:00,629 --> 01:37:59,600 another version of hell by the way yeah 2359 01:38:04,870 --> 01:38:00,639 right 2360 01:38:07,910 --> 01:38:04,880 but but what i find interesting here is 2361 01:38:11,350 --> 01:38:07,920 it seems like do you feel 2362 01:38:15,189 --> 01:38:11,360 that you you died 2363 01:38:18,470 --> 01:38:15,199 you were shown things you were shown how 2364 01:38:19,910 --> 01:38:18,480 you were shown heaven and then you were 2365 01:38:25,430 --> 01:38:19,920 given 2366 01:38:29,189 --> 01:38:28,790 um i definitely feel like i've i've been 2367 01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:29,199 getting 2368 01:38:33,189 --> 01:38:31,840 given a second lease on life absolutely 2369 01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:33,199 um 2370 01:38:36,229 --> 01:38:35,280 what happened to me i i really don't 2371 01:38:39,510 --> 01:38:36,239 know 2372 01:38:40,790 --> 01:38:39,520 um i'm not closing uh the door to any 2373 01:38:42,790 --> 01:38:40,800 possibility 2374 01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:42,800 this has definitely opened up my mind 2375 01:38:47,270 --> 01:38:44,480 this experience 2376 01:38:48,709 --> 01:38:47,280 um i didn't really believe in anything 2377 01:38:51,910 --> 01:38:48,719 like you know 2378 01:38:53,189 --> 01:38:51,920 paranormal or life after death or 2379 01:38:55,109 --> 01:38:53,199 anything like that i 2380 01:38:57,189 --> 01:38:55,119 never really considered it it wasn't 2381 01:38:59,030 --> 01:38:57,199 that i dispelled it but i just didn't 2382 01:39:02,310 --> 01:38:59,040 even really think about it that much 2383 01:39:05,830 --> 01:39:02,320 and now that it's happened um 2384 01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:05,840 anything's possible and uh 2385 01:39:10,070 --> 01:39:08,080 i i just i definitely think i got a 2386 01:39:13,750 --> 01:39:10,080 second lease on life and 2387 01:39:15,669 --> 01:39:13,760 um people say it was just uh 2388 01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:15,679 a result of the drugs i was taking and 2389 01:39:19,750 --> 01:39:17,280 it was a hallucination or 2390 01:39:20,709 --> 01:39:19,760 it was all drug induced and that may be 2391 01:39:22,550 --> 01:39:20,719 um 2392 01:39:24,629 --> 01:39:22,560 i don't know what happened man i don't 2393 01:39:27,189 --> 01:39:24,639 know what happened did the 2394 01:39:28,470 --> 01:39:27,199 did the visions you know of both heaven 2395 01:39:31,430 --> 01:39:28,480 and hell 2396 01:39:31,830 --> 01:39:31,440 um with the stuff that you were reading 2397 01:39:38,709 --> 01:39:31,840 and 2398 01:39:40,550 --> 01:39:38,719 did the visions uh 2399 01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:40,560 were they similar to things that you had 2400 01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:42,560 seen were they influenced 2401 01:39:46,550 --> 01:39:44,880 by things that you may have seen or 2402 01:39:48,390 --> 01:39:46,560 looked at in the past 2403 01:39:49,910 --> 01:39:48,400 that's a great question and a hundred 2404 01:39:53,430 --> 01:39:49,920 percent yes 2405 01:39:55,510 --> 01:39:53,440 hell looked exactly like how hell looks 2406 01:39:56,149 --> 01:39:55,520 at the old marvel comics from the 70s 2407 01:39:59,189 --> 01:39:56,159 the way 2408 01:40:00,709 --> 01:39:59,199 comics 2409 01:40:03,510 --> 01:40:00,719 that's what it looked like a lot of like 2410 01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:03,520 stalagmites and stalactites and 2411 01:40:10,470 --> 01:40:07,600 uh so it was definitely inspired by 2412 01:40:12,629 --> 01:40:10,480 stuff i've read and comic books and 2413 01:40:15,830 --> 01:40:12,639 movies i've watched and even like 2414 01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:15,840 uh the music i listen to like slayer's 2415 01:40:21,030 --> 01:40:17,920 album cover hell awaits like 2416 01:40:22,550 --> 01:40:21,040 that's a a good depiction of hell and 2417 01:40:24,550 --> 01:40:22,560 kind of had that vibe if you know what 2418 01:40:27,510 --> 01:40:24,560 that album cover looks like i do i do 2419 01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:27,520 yeah yeah so all these things that i've 2420 01:40:30,470 --> 01:40:28,239 been into 2421 01:40:31,830 --> 01:40:30,480 throughout my life were were kind of 2422 01:40:35,109 --> 01:40:31,840 manifesting 2423 01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:35,119 in the worst possible way uh and 2424 01:40:38,149 --> 01:40:36,960 the same with heaven yet heaven was all 2425 01:40:40,950 --> 01:40:38,159 bright and 2426 01:40:42,629 --> 01:40:40,960 there was clouds and it was all light 2427 01:40:46,629 --> 01:40:42,639 everything was white and light 2428 01:40:50,950 --> 01:40:46,639 and um and it looked like 2429 01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:50,960 a roman palace kind of and uh 2430 01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:53,040 yeah this bizarre [\h__\h] going on there 2431 01:40:57,510 --> 01:40:54,480 going on up in heaven man 2432 01:41:00,629 --> 01:40:57,520 yeah um 2433 01:41:05,590 --> 01:41:00,639 would you define it as an 2434 01:41:08,709 --> 01:41:05,600 nde a near-death experience yes 2435 01:41:11,990 --> 01:41:08,719 and wow absolutely okay let's 2436 01:41:14,870 --> 01:41:12,000 let's go post uh let's go 2437 01:41:16,310 --> 01:41:14,880 post coma now you're out now you're 2438 01:41:21,189 --> 01:41:16,320 talking to the doctors 2439 01:41:23,830 --> 01:41:21,199 and and the nurses um were they 2440 01:41:25,510 --> 01:41:23,840 uh were they telling you how bad it 2441 01:41:27,669 --> 01:41:25,520 actually was 2442 01:41:29,350 --> 01:41:27,679 you know i'm sure that they you scared 2443 01:41:32,229 --> 01:41:29,360 them a few times 2444 01:41:33,669 --> 01:41:32,239 um did they were they forthcoming with 2445 01:41:35,510 --> 01:41:33,679 information 2446 01:41:37,830 --> 01:41:35,520 not at first they didn't really tell me 2447 01:41:40,790 --> 01:41:37,840 anything uh 2448 01:41:41,350 --> 01:41:40,800 um you know like first question was am i 2449 01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:41,360 still 2450 01:41:45,350 --> 01:41:43,920 am i back in hell or am i in hell or am 2451 01:41:48,229 --> 01:41:45,360 i still in hell 2452 01:41:49,910 --> 01:41:48,239 and she ignored me and every time she 2453 01:41:51,830 --> 01:41:49,920 came back into the room i would just be 2454 01:41:55,109 --> 01:41:51,840 like nurse nurse where am i 2455 01:41:57,750 --> 01:41:55,119 what's happening um 2456 01:41:59,990 --> 01:41:57,760 but uh i yeah i had no idea where i was 2457 01:42:02,870 --> 01:42:00,000 i thought maybe i was still in europe 2458 01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:02,880 um i had definitely didn't know i was in 2459 01:42:04,950 --> 01:42:04,239 san francisco i thought i could have 2460 01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:04,960 been on the other 2461 01:42:09,189 --> 01:42:07,840 and other end of the world um i didn't 2462 01:42:11,350 --> 01:42:09,199 remember 2463 01:42:13,189 --> 01:42:11,360 i kind of forgot about the tour too so i 2464 01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:13,199 just i just forgot like the last couple 2465 01:42:15,430 --> 01:42:14,000 of months of my life 2466 01:42:18,229 --> 01:42:15,440 like i was like what the hell am i doing 2467 01:42:20,070 --> 01:42:18,239 here and where the hell am i 2468 01:42:22,470 --> 01:42:20,080 and they finally like maybe like a day 2469 01:42:24,790 --> 01:42:22,480 after being awake they told me i was in 2470 01:42:27,030 --> 01:42:24,800 san francisco so i was very relieved 2471 01:42:27,990 --> 01:42:27,040 i took a a huge weight off my off my 2472 01:42:29,830 --> 01:42:28,000 mind 2473 01:42:31,109 --> 01:42:29,840 and then it turned out that i was in the 2474 01:42:33,590 --> 01:42:31,119 hospital that was like 2475 01:42:35,189 --> 01:42:33,600 a 10 minute walk from my apartment so i 2476 01:42:36,629 --> 01:42:35,199 was like really relieved when i was 2477 01:42:39,830 --> 01:42:36,639 still in my neighborhood 2478 01:42:41,189 --> 01:42:39,840 um but as far as like the coma they 2479 01:42:44,229 --> 01:42:41,199 didn't tell me that so maybe 2480 01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:44,239 like a day or so they they told me yeah 2481 01:42:46,390 --> 01:42:44,800 you were 2482 01:42:48,229 --> 01:42:46,400 you're in a coma for 12 days and that 2483 01:42:51,350 --> 01:42:48,239 was a real shock 2484 01:42:53,270 --> 01:42:51,360 and um they didn't tell me i had heart 2485 01:42:54,709 --> 01:42:53,280 failure until maybe a couple days after 2486 01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:54,719 that they were just kind of peppering 2487 01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:56,080 the information 2488 01:42:59,109 --> 01:42:57,920 uh they didn't want to like overwhelm me 2489 01:43:00,790 --> 01:42:59,119 i guess uh 2490 01:43:02,390 --> 01:43:00,800 when i first woke up or when they first 2491 01:43:04,629 --> 01:43:02,400 started like testing me 2492 01:43:06,229 --> 01:43:04,639 after i woke up they had some like 2493 01:43:08,070 --> 01:43:06,239 questions like do you know who the 2494 01:43:10,310 --> 01:43:08,080 the president is you know what year it 2495 01:43:12,229 --> 01:43:10,320 is when's your birthday like all these 2496 01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:12,239 like rudimentary questions 2497 01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:15,280 and um for the president one i 2498 01:43:18,470 --> 01:43:16,719 i you know it was before they told me 2499 01:43:19,750 --> 01:43:18,480 how long i was out so i didn't know how 2500 01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:19,760 long i was out 2501 01:43:23,270 --> 01:43:21,760 so i was like hey i don't know is it 2502 01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:23,280 still trump i mean 2503 01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:24,800 he could have gotten impeached since 2504 01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:27,280 i've since i've been asleep but uh 2505 01:43:37,990 --> 01:43:35,350 yeah the the heart failure part 2506 01:43:39,270 --> 01:43:38,000 is is an interesting thing for them to 2507 01:43:43,030 --> 01:43:39,280 tell you 2508 01:43:47,030 --> 01:43:43,040 had 2509 01:43:50,310 --> 01:43:49,830 no but it was uh it was caused by the 2510 01:43:52,790 --> 01:43:50,320 all the 2511 01:43:55,030 --> 01:43:52,800 combination of drugs i was taking it 2512 01:43:57,189 --> 01:43:55,040 just slowed my blood blood rates 2513 01:43:58,390 --> 01:43:57,199 down to the point where my heart just 2514 01:44:01,030 --> 01:43:58,400 stopped beating 2515 01:44:03,030 --> 01:44:01,040 and uh they didn't tell me how long 2516 01:44:05,270 --> 01:44:03,040 though so that's a good question like 2517 01:44:06,629 --> 01:44:05,280 how long was i dead you know yeah 2518 01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:06,639 because 2519 01:44:10,550 --> 01:44:09,520 the reason why i bring that up is it's 2520 01:44:12,470 --> 01:44:10,560 uh 2521 01:44:15,510 --> 01:44:12,480 the transitions that you're going 2522 01:44:18,550 --> 01:44:15,520 through in these visions right 2523 01:44:20,550 --> 01:44:18,560 and so when you're 2524 01:44:23,109 --> 01:44:20,560 zipping away from your body away from 2525 01:44:26,709 --> 01:44:23,119 hell and up to heaven 2526 01:44:29,590 --> 01:44:26,719 is that is that when your heart failed 2527 01:44:31,189 --> 01:44:29,600 right question good question and and 2528 01:44:35,030 --> 01:44:31,199 there's no way to find that out i 2529 01:44:38,310 --> 01:44:35,040 suppose no there wouldn't be 2530 01:44:39,109 --> 01:44:38,320 um yeah i mean like i said that the 2531 01:44:42,470 --> 01:44:39,119 heaven part 2532 01:44:44,470 --> 01:44:42,480 seemed really short so 2533 01:44:46,070 --> 01:44:44,480 if that was a result of my heart failure 2534 01:44:48,149 --> 01:44:46,080 i would be i would guess it was towards 2535 01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:48,159 the end of my coma like maybe the last 2536 01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:49,760 day or two they could probably tell me 2537 01:44:54,790 --> 01:44:51,600 that i'm sure they could tell me that 2538 01:44:57,350 --> 01:44:54,800 uh i'm gonna look into that the 2539 01:44:58,550 --> 01:44:57,360 um yeah somebody just posted you nee 2540 01:45:01,990 --> 01:44:58,560 your next band should be 2541 01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:02,000 life angel yeah yeah yeah yeah 2542 01:45:06,629 --> 01:45:04,480 yeah but i'm pumped but i'm pumped i'm 2543 01:45:09,669 --> 01:45:06,639 here all week um 2544 01:45:12,709 --> 01:45:09,679 by the veal everybody um now 2545 01:45:14,870 --> 01:45:12,719 and then your heart gets restarted 2546 01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:14,880 is i'm wondering if that is when you 2547 01:45:20,070 --> 01:45:17,440 showed up in modesto 2548 01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:20,080 i mean yeah i was i was hanging out with 2549 01:45:24,709 --> 01:45:21,679 a couple of 2550 01:45:26,550 --> 01:45:24,719 lifelong friends and uh 2551 01:45:27,830 --> 01:45:26,560 we were hanging out at the bar there was 2552 01:45:31,109 --> 01:45:27,840 some horrible 2553 01:45:32,870 --> 01:45:31,119 local band playing on stage and i just 2554 01:45:34,390 --> 01:45:32,880 kept on asking why are we here what the 2555 01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:34,400 hell are we doing here like 2556 01:45:41,189 --> 01:45:40,390 and uh that's yeah that's the last thing 2557 01:45:43,590 --> 01:45:41,199 i remember 2558 01:45:44,950 --> 01:45:43,600 no what what the dream world what about 2559 01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:44,960 your friends and family 2560 01:45:48,950 --> 01:45:48,000 and of course your bandmates uh are they 2561 01:45:52,070 --> 01:45:48,960 making comments 2562 01:45:53,109 --> 01:45:52,080 you seem different man uh you know are 2563 01:45:59,750 --> 01:45:53,119 they 2564 01:46:00,950 --> 01:45:59,760 well i've only seen one of the band 2565 01:46:04,149 --> 01:46:00,960 members in person 2566 01:46:07,030 --> 01:46:04,159 since uh since i got out of the hospital 2567 01:46:07,990 --> 01:46:07,040 uh but i've lost 40 pounds so that's 2568 01:46:11,430 --> 01:46:08,000 noticeable that 2569 01:46:15,109 --> 01:46:11,440 i look uh a little more fit or 2570 01:46:17,189 --> 01:46:15,119 at all fit and 2571 01:46:18,550 --> 01:46:17,199 people who have seen me say i have a 2572 01:46:21,590 --> 01:46:18,560 glow to me 2573 01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:21,600 and i just look a lot healthier than i 2574 01:46:26,629 --> 01:46:23,440 have in quite a while 2575 01:46:29,109 --> 01:46:26,639 and um and just they're all everyone 2576 01:46:31,189 --> 01:46:29,119 seems to be surprised how chipper i am 2577 01:46:32,470 --> 01:46:31,199 and uh you know i i kind of joke about 2578 01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:32,480 this whole thing 2579 01:46:37,109 --> 01:46:35,360 uh i'm not i'm not like permanently 2580 01:46:39,910 --> 01:46:37,119 scarred from it or 2581 01:46:41,030 --> 01:46:39,920 shattered from it in any way uh at least 2582 01:46:44,229 --> 01:46:41,040 i don't think i am 2583 01:46:46,629 --> 01:46:44,239 and um so people noticed that and and 2584 01:46:48,950 --> 01:46:46,639 on my ted my bandmate he definitely 2585 01:46:52,629 --> 01:46:48,960 noticed it i just had a 2586 01:46:54,550 --> 01:46:52,639 a a healthy aura to me compared to how i 2587 01:46:58,149 --> 01:46:54,560 was the last few years 2588 01:46:59,990 --> 01:46:58,159 and uh the doctors when i uh after i 2589 01:47:02,470 --> 01:47:00,000 woke up 2590 01:47:04,070 --> 01:47:02,480 there was doctors coming into my room 2591 01:47:05,669 --> 01:47:04,080 who 2592 01:47:07,750 --> 01:47:05,679 had nothing to do with my case weren't 2593 01:47:08,149 --> 01:47:07,760 even working on me but had heard about 2594 01:47:11,109 --> 01:47:08,159 me 2595 01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:11,119 and thought i was going to die they were 2596 01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:12,880 telling my uh my fiance 2597 01:47:19,830 --> 01:47:16,800 uh to like get my papers in order and 2598 01:47:22,390 --> 01:47:19,840 it's the doctors were telling uh the 2599 01:47:24,790 --> 01:47:22,400 doctors were telling her 2600 01:47:25,590 --> 01:47:24,800 that it was looking grave they're using 2601 01:47:29,109 --> 01:47:25,600 the words like 2602 01:47:30,149 --> 01:47:29,119 grave and grim and dire and they started 2603 01:47:31,990 --> 01:47:30,159 telling her that 2604 01:47:33,669 --> 01:47:32,000 yeah you better get your papers in order 2605 01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:33,679 and this isn't looking good 2606 01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:36,560 so when i woke up and survived there was 2607 01:47:39,990 --> 01:47:37,840 doctors walking in with like 2608 01:47:41,910 --> 01:47:40,000 bewilderment on their face 2609 01:47:43,430 --> 01:47:41,920 they were just looking at me like wow 2610 01:47:45,590 --> 01:47:43,440 and then they would say 2611 01:47:47,430 --> 01:47:45,600 something like you you have any idea how 2612 01:47:49,510 --> 01:47:47,440 close you were to dying and 2613 01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:49,520 or something of that nature and the more 2614 01:47:52,870 --> 01:47:51,040 they would tell me that the the more 2615 01:47:54,229 --> 01:47:52,880 freaked out i would get like geez 2616 01:47:55,910 --> 01:47:54,239 you know that's something you don't 2617 01:47:57,189 --> 01:47:55,920 really want to think about they keep 2618 01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:57,199 reminding you of it 2619 01:48:00,950 --> 01:48:00,320 how close i was to to you know dying 2620 01:48:02,790 --> 01:48:00,960 it's just 2621 01:48:04,070 --> 01:48:02,800 pretty pretty frightening well and then 2622 01:48:07,189 --> 01:48:04,080 you have uh 2623 01:48:07,510 --> 01:48:07,199 you know the guy that we've all listened 2624 01:48:10,950 --> 01:48:07,520 to 2625 01:48:13,430 --> 01:48:10,960 growing up you know life is short 2626 01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:13,440 yeah don't take anything for granted 2627 01:48:16,550 --> 01:48:14,320 well yeah 2628 01:48:18,229 --> 01:48:16,560 when you're young you could give a crap 2629 01:48:21,510 --> 01:48:18,239 right life is long 2630 01:48:24,229 --> 01:48:21,520 and and you do crazy things but now are 2631 01:48:26,310 --> 01:48:24,239 you know are are you looking at life a 2632 01:48:29,350 --> 01:48:26,320 little bit differently 2633 01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:29,360 absolutely um i used to just live uh 2634 01:48:33,510 --> 01:48:32,000 day to day and didn't give the the 2635 01:48:35,430 --> 01:48:33,520 future much thought at all 2636 01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:35,440 i mean even with like with death angel 2637 01:48:39,030 --> 01:48:37,199 like they'd be talking about a tour 2638 01:48:40,390 --> 01:48:39,040 that's going to be happening in like 2639 01:48:42,709 --> 01:48:40,400 four months and be you know they're 2640 01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:42,719 excited about it i just i found it hard 2641 01:48:45,910 --> 01:48:44,320 to get excited about anything that was 2642 01:48:48,870 --> 01:48:45,920 beyond a week 2643 01:48:50,070 --> 01:48:48,880 in my future i was just so in the moment 2644 01:48:53,750 --> 01:48:50,080 all the time 2645 01:48:55,030 --> 01:48:53,760 and uh now uh i'm taking health a lot 2646 01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:55,040 more seriously 2647 01:48:58,870 --> 01:48:57,040 because i want to live for as long as i 2648 01:49:01,750 --> 01:48:58,880 can i don't want to 2649 01:49:03,830 --> 01:49:01,760 go through this again and i want to be 2650 01:49:07,030 --> 01:49:03,840 around for as long as i can and 2651 01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:07,040 be with my my fiance and my family and 2652 01:49:11,350 --> 01:49:08,800 you know get married and do all that and 2653 01:49:13,270 --> 01:49:11,360 uh just 2654 01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:13,280 just i take life a lot more seriously 2655 01:49:18,950 --> 01:49:15,040 now and my health 2656 01:49:20,629 --> 01:49:18,960 and uh i and also what other people 2657 01:49:22,629 --> 01:49:20,639 uh think of me i'm not what they think 2658 01:49:23,589 --> 01:49:22,639 of me but how my relationship with other 2659 01:49:27,109 --> 01:49:23,599 people 2660 01:49:29,189 --> 01:49:27,119 um what am i saying i cherish my friends 2661 01:49:31,030 --> 01:49:29,199 more and my family 2662 01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:31,040 and uh just all my positive 2663 01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:32,400 relationships i 2664 01:49:37,510 --> 01:49:36,159 i just consider more and uh just 2665 01:49:40,229 --> 01:49:37,520 just trying to be more of a giving 2666 01:49:43,910 --> 01:49:40,239 person i suppose what do you do 2667 01:49:44,390 --> 01:49:43,920 what's your advice to uh people out 2668 01:49:47,510 --> 01:49:44,400 there 2669 01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:47,520 that are reading the different 2670 01:49:51,750 --> 01:49:49,760 conspiracy theories and things that are 2671 01:49:54,950 --> 01:49:51,760 out there about coronavirus and 2672 01:49:58,709 --> 01:49:54,960 uh kova 19 that it's fake it's not real 2673 01:50:01,030 --> 01:49:58,719 um you know the numbers are are 2674 01:50:01,750 --> 01:50:01,040 you know and it's not it's not that 2675 01:50:04,950 --> 01:50:01,760 serious 2676 01:50:06,709 --> 01:50:04,960 and and you know when when when this 2677 01:50:07,510 --> 01:50:06,719 stuff is going on out there what would 2678 01:50:10,149 --> 01:50:07,520 you say 2679 01:50:11,270 --> 01:50:10,159 to those people that that are a reading 2680 01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:11,280 that stuff and two 2681 01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:13,679 the people that are creating those 2682 01:50:18,070 --> 01:50:15,920 headlines 2683 01:50:18,950 --> 01:50:18,080 uh it really upset me when i first got 2684 01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:18,960 out of the hospital 2685 01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:22,000 and started watching the news and 2686 01:50:26,149 --> 01:50:24,400 following it 2687 01:50:28,629 --> 01:50:26,159 but after a couple of weeks of it i just 2688 01:50:31,270 --> 01:50:28,639 kind of got numb to it and now i just 2689 01:50:34,709 --> 01:50:31,280 don't even engage i don't even 2690 01:50:37,109 --> 01:50:34,719 read into it if i see a comment on 2691 01:50:38,310 --> 01:50:37,119 social media or some kind of headline or 2692 01:50:40,709 --> 01:50:38,320 anything like that 2693 01:50:43,510 --> 01:50:40,719 i just try to avoid it because it just 2694 01:50:47,030 --> 01:50:43,520 it just pisses me off 2695 01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:47,040 it's a shame and in my neighborhood i 2696 01:50:52,390 --> 01:50:48,800 live in a very urban 2697 01:50:53,669 --> 01:50:52,400 area lots of people around me and 2698 01:50:55,430 --> 01:50:53,679 still like half the people aren't 2699 01:50:59,109 --> 01:50:55,440 wearing masks and that 2700 01:51:01,030 --> 01:50:59,119 that bums me out too so uh 2701 01:51:03,030 --> 01:51:01,040 i just try not to get too wrapped up in 2702 01:51:08,229 --> 01:51:03,040 it what do you think 2703 01:51:11,830 --> 01:51:08,239 ultimately is uh is going to 2704 01:51:13,350 --> 01:51:11,840 is it is it something that is going to 2705 01:51:15,030 --> 01:51:13,360 just go away 2706 01:51:17,589 --> 01:51:15,040 the the part and i'm talking about the 2707 01:51:20,070 --> 01:51:17,599 illness itself right the the virus 2708 01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:20,080 but then we have the lingering effects 2709 01:51:24,070 --> 01:51:20,880 from it 2710 01:51:26,229 --> 01:51:24,080 the economy employment and 2711 01:51:27,910 --> 01:51:26,239 the way that the world has been shut 2712 01:51:31,270 --> 01:51:27,920 down because of this 2713 01:51:33,189 --> 01:51:31,280 it is indeed real right what do you 2714 01:51:34,550 --> 01:51:33,199 think the future is going to be are we 2715 01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:34,560 gonna have to deal with this every 2716 01:51:38,310 --> 01:51:35,920 single year 2717 01:51:39,350 --> 01:51:38,320 or or do you think that this is 2718 01:51:42,790 --> 01:51:39,360 something that 2719 01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:46,070 uh i mean first i i think it's gonna be 2720 01:51:52,310 --> 01:51:48,719 a long time before 2721 01:51:54,390 --> 01:51:52,320 the situation is rectified um 2722 01:51:55,990 --> 01:51:54,400 and yeah the lingering effects are going 2723 01:51:58,629 --> 01:51:56,000 to go on for years 2724 01:52:00,870 --> 01:51:58,639 uh but as far as like another another 2725 01:52:04,390 --> 01:52:00,880 outbreak 2726 01:52:07,430 --> 01:52:04,400 it's definitely possible um i would hope 2727 01:52:09,189 --> 01:52:07,440 that we would be able to learn from this 2728 01:52:10,870 --> 01:52:09,199 and make sure it never happens again and 2729 01:52:13,350 --> 01:52:10,880 have safeguards but 2730 01:52:15,109 --> 01:52:13,360 i mean anything is possible i believe 2731 01:52:18,390 --> 01:52:15,119 anything after all this 2732 01:52:19,750 --> 01:52:18,400 and now let's uh i want to talk about 2733 01:52:22,629 --> 01:52:19,760 your personal life 2734 01:52:24,790 --> 01:52:22,639 are you watching are you watching movies 2735 01:52:28,830 --> 01:52:24,800 like what dreams may come 2736 01:52:31,830 --> 01:52:28,840 or or defending your life or heaven can 2737 01:52:33,270 --> 01:52:31,840 wait no uh 2738 01:52:35,990 --> 01:52:33,280 actually i haven't watched a single 2739 01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:36,000 movie like that i've been watching uh 2740 01:52:40,149 --> 01:52:39,040 just a lot of sci-fi movies and a lot of 2741 01:52:42,149 --> 01:52:40,159 horror movies i 2742 01:52:43,510 --> 01:52:42,159 well like i said my interests haven't 2743 01:52:47,270 --> 01:52:43,520 changed and 2744 01:52:49,430 --> 01:52:47,280 um i still love all the things i loved 2745 01:52:50,310 --> 01:52:49,440 growing up and and you know my whole 2746 01:52:51,910 --> 01:52:50,320 life so 2747 01:52:53,750 --> 01:52:51,920 i definitely like horror movies and i 2748 01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:53,760 like i like movies 2749 01:52:59,350 --> 01:52:57,199 that involve the satanic matter or 2750 01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:59,360 subject matter or movies about devil 2751 01:53:02,390 --> 01:53:00,400 worship i 2752 01:53:04,149 --> 01:53:02,400 i think are scary and very interesting 2753 01:53:04,709 --> 01:53:04,159 so i watch a lot of those kind of movies 2754 01:53:06,070 --> 01:53:04,719 still 2755 01:53:08,950 --> 01:53:06,080 and that's what i've been watching a lot 2756 01:53:09,830 --> 01:53:08,960 of old 70s like horror movies satanic 2757 01:53:11,510 --> 01:53:09,840 horror movies 2758 01:53:13,589 --> 01:53:11,520 yeah they're the best they're the best 2759 01:53:16,390 --> 01:53:13,599 hey did you watch 2760 01:53:17,750 --> 01:53:16,400 speaking of that and and don't laugh if 2761 01:53:20,550 --> 01:53:17,760 you haven't seen it 2762 01:53:21,990 --> 01:53:20,560 but have you watched the new sabrina the 2763 01:53:24,310 --> 01:53:22,000 teenage witch 2764 01:53:25,350 --> 01:53:24,320 no i haven't you haven't checked that 2765 01:53:26,870 --> 01:53:25,360 out oh 2766 01:53:28,550 --> 01:53:26,880 okay all right all right all right now 2767 01:53:31,270 --> 01:53:28,560 you need to 2768 01:53:31,910 --> 01:53:31,280 uh you've got three seasons of binge 2769 01:53:34,709 --> 01:53:31,920 watching 2770 01:53:35,750 --> 01:53:34,719 in front of you you've got to go you've 2771 01:53:38,229 --> 01:53:35,760 got to go 2772 01:53:40,470 --> 01:53:38,239 do it after the show tonight just sit 2773 01:53:44,430 --> 01:53:40,480 down start with season one 2774 01:53:47,270 --> 01:53:44,440 and and check that out it's got it's got 2775 01:53:50,390 --> 01:53:47,280 everything it's got everything 2776 01:53:53,669 --> 01:53:50,400 and when you say uh i'm i'm curious 2777 01:53:55,990 --> 01:53:53,679 when you say uh a horror movie 2778 01:53:57,830 --> 01:53:56,000 for you we discuss this all the time on 2779 01:53:59,589 --> 01:53:57,840 this show okay we're not breaking new 2780 01:54:01,750 --> 01:53:59,599 ground here 2781 01:54:03,189 --> 01:54:01,760 we talked to movies all night last night 2782 01:54:06,709 --> 01:54:03,199 on open lines 2783 01:54:09,750 --> 01:54:06,719 um uh your favorite horror movie 2784 01:54:11,669 --> 01:54:09,760 all time number one uh 2785 01:54:13,990 --> 01:54:11,679 i mean i hate to pick one that's so 2786 01:54:15,350 --> 01:54:14,000 obvious but it's the exorcist man it's 2787 01:54:17,430 --> 01:54:15,360 the exorcist all the way 2788 01:54:20,830 --> 01:54:17,440 yeah yeah yeah that's right there i'm 2789 01:54:25,669 --> 01:54:22,149 um 2790 01:54:28,470 --> 01:54:25,679 shining oh yeah oh yeah 2791 01:54:30,550 --> 01:54:28,480 it's funny you bring up the shining uh 2792 01:54:32,870 --> 01:54:30,560 one of the most vivid memories i have 2793 01:54:33,830 --> 01:54:32,880 of my flight home when i was breaking 2794 01:54:37,270 --> 01:54:33,840 out in fever 2795 01:54:38,550 --> 01:54:37,280 i watched uh dr sleep and that's the 2796 01:54:41,669 --> 01:54:38,560 sequel to the shining 2797 01:54:43,350 --> 01:54:41,679 awesome great awesome great movie and so 2798 01:54:45,830 --> 01:54:43,360 i was watching that when i was like 2799 01:54:47,910 --> 01:54:45,840 breaking out in 102 fever and 2800 01:54:49,270 --> 01:54:47,920 i was just feeling like i was gonna die 2801 01:54:51,430 --> 01:54:49,280 i watched that movie so 2802 01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:51,440 a movie has a special place in my heart 2803 01:54:56,550 --> 01:54:54,000 and in my mind like whatever 2804 01:54:58,149 --> 01:54:56,560 i've watched it since then and i totally 2805 01:54:59,510 --> 01:54:58,159 was just going back to that flight when 2806 01:55:02,229 --> 01:54:59,520 i was watching it and 2807 01:55:02,709 --> 01:55:02,239 just getting some little little anxiety 2808 01:55:05,990 --> 01:55:02,719 there 2809 01:55:09,270 --> 01:55:06,000 yeah i didn't know if uh dr 2810 01:55:13,270 --> 01:55:09,280 sleep was going to be good first off 2811 01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:13,280 to do a sequel or or prequel or sequel 2812 01:55:16,470 --> 01:55:14,960 to the shining we're talking about 2813 01:55:18,149 --> 01:55:16,480 stanley kubrick and probably the 2814 01:55:20,390 --> 01:55:18,159 greatest film ever made right 2815 01:55:21,510 --> 01:55:20,400 right you gotta come out with your a 2816 01:55:23,510 --> 01:55:21,520 game and i 2817 01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:23,520 just didn't want to be disappointed that 2818 01:55:27,910 --> 01:55:24,800 movie was bleeping 2819 01:55:30,229 --> 01:55:27,920 great it was man uh 2820 01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:30,239 i love you and mcgregor i'm a star wars 2821 01:55:33,189 --> 01:55:31,199 freak 2822 01:55:35,589 --> 01:55:33,199 so uh i thought he did a great job as 2823 01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:35,599 ben kenobi so i'm a fan of him so when i 2824 01:55:39,350 --> 01:55:37,360 saw his name attached to it 2825 01:55:41,669 --> 01:55:39,360 uh i was relieved a little bit because i 2826 01:55:43,750 --> 01:55:41,679 was i was ready to hate that movie i was 2827 01:55:45,830 --> 01:55:43,760 like oh my god a sequel like what 2828 01:55:47,830 --> 01:55:45,840 what is this but uh i thought it was 2829 01:55:51,270 --> 01:55:47,840 really well done uh 2830 01:55:53,750 --> 01:55:51,280 definitely a lot of twists and turns and 2831 01:55:55,910 --> 01:55:53,760 like a lot of surprises and the way they 2832 01:55:58,709 --> 01:55:55,920 tied in the original story was 2833 01:55:59,589 --> 01:55:58,719 great and i thought he played a he did a 2834 01:56:03,109 --> 01:55:59,599 great job as an 2835 01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:03,119 old danny and um yeah i was pleasantly 2836 01:56:06,310 --> 01:56:04,080 surprised and 2837 01:56:07,750 --> 01:56:06,320 i i recommend it to everybody i know who 2838 01:56:08,390 --> 01:56:07,760 likes horror movies i'm like you gotta 2839 01:56:10,149 --> 01:56:08,400 see dr 2840 01:56:11,589 --> 01:56:10,159 sleep i never even heard about it i 2841 01:56:13,270 --> 01:56:11,599 didn't even know it came out 2842 01:56:14,870 --> 01:56:13,280 i don't remember being in the theaters 2843 01:56:17,189 --> 01:56:14,880 or anything like that but 2844 01:56:18,870 --> 01:56:17,199 uh it's yeah it's a fantastic movie yeah 2845 01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:18,880 i think it went straight to video 2846 01:56:22,229 --> 01:56:21,360 now how will because that's where i 2847 01:56:26,229 --> 01:56:22,239 caught it 2848 01:56:54,070 --> 01:56:26,239 how will do you think that 2849 01:57:01,910 --> 01:56:57,830 so i really have control over 2850 01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:05,910 some situation but 2851 01:57:22,830 --> 01:57:07,510 inspire a lot of lyrics for the new 2852 01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:36,830 and 2853 01:57:36,840 --> 01:58:47,750 okay 2854 01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:51,910 this conversation 2855 01:59:00,870 --> 01:58:53,910 take some phone calls we might do that 2856 01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:04,470 drummer 2857 01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:08,470 there will take a quick 2858 01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:12,870 as well 2859 01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:20,310 i'll be right back 2860 01:59:39,990 --> 01:59:30,310 over the metal guard 2861 01:59:45,750 --> 01:59:43,589 up when the body's out of balance 2862 01:59:49,510 --> 01:59:45,760 give your body some love log on to get 2863 01:59:53,589 --> 01:59:51,589 inch t which cleanses you from harmful 2864 01:59:55,270 --> 01:59:53,599 intruders a clean colon 2865 01:59:57,109 --> 01:59:55,280 is one of the ways to bring the body in 2866 01:59:57,990 --> 01:59:57,119 balance we also carry organic 2867 02:00:00,470 --> 01:59:58,000 supplements to help 2868 02:00:01,430 --> 02:00:00,480 you get 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with the latest paranormal news 2931 02:03:15,430 --> 02:03:13,760 trending topics and fresh articles from 2932 02:03:17,430 --> 02:03:15,440 some of the most popular critical 2933 02:03:19,350 --> 02:03:17,440 thinkers in the community today 2934 02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:19,360 stay formed on your favorite paranormal 2935 02:03:23,910 --> 02:03:22,080 podcasts and live streaming talk shows 2936 02:03:25,270 --> 02:03:23,920 interact with the telepath and upload 2937 02:03:27,189 --> 02:03:25,280 your paranormal story or 2938 02:03:28,310 --> 02:03:27,199 picks it could be featured in an 2939 02:03:30,709 --> 02:03:28,320 upcoming edition 2940 02:03:31,350 --> 02:03:30,719 sign up right now for the free telepath 2941 02:03:33,430 --> 02:03:31,360 newsletter 2942 02:03:44,070 --> 02:03:33,440 at paranormal dot radio that's 2943 02:03:50,709 --> 02:03:47,109 you want to know a secret i love 2944 02:03:52,550 --> 02:03:50,719 police i really love ponies i'm serious 2945 02:03:54,229 --> 02:03:52,560 i couldn't stay sane without pawn 2946 02:03:57,270 --> 02:03:54,239 instabrush 2947 02:03:58,149 --> 02:03:57,280 i fade to black because you never got 2948 02:04:02,310 --> 02:03:58,159 that pony 2949 02:04:06,629 --> 02:04:04,550 this is fade to black jimmy church on 2950 02:04:23,990 --> 02:04:06,639 the game changer radio network 2951 02:04:27,669 --> 02:04:25,990 welcome back fade to black and wheels 2952 02:04:30,149 --> 02:04:27,679 jimmy church tonight will carroll 2953 02:04:33,189 --> 02:04:30,159 drummer for death angel is with us 2954 02:04:36,390 --> 02:04:33,199 an amazing amazing story and 2955 02:04:38,910 --> 02:04:36,400 life story actually and i'm going to 2956 02:04:43,790 --> 02:04:38,920 open up the phone line 2957 02:04:47,990 --> 02:04:45,350 747-228-2051 2958 02:04:48,629 --> 02:04:48,000 and and will okay a couple of quick 2959 02:04:51,750 --> 02:04:48,639 questions 2960 02:04:55,109 --> 02:04:51,760 um this is just for me 2961 02:04:59,750 --> 02:04:58,229 eddie van gaal oh you the man you the 2962 02:05:00,229 --> 02:04:59,760 man i've got you know what i have 2963 02:05:03,270 --> 02:05:00,239 hanging 2964 02:05:04,069 --> 02:05:03,280 in back of me i've got the black and 2965 02:05:06,629 --> 02:05:04,079 white 2966 02:05:07,830 --> 02:05:06,639 strat from van halen one with the black 2967 02:05:10,470 --> 02:05:07,840 pickguard 2968 02:05:12,629 --> 02:05:10,480 oh wow yeah right there wait wait so 2969 02:05:15,910 --> 02:05:12,639 it's one of his actual guitars or no 2970 02:05:18,550 --> 02:05:15,920 it's a replica it's a replica man yeah 2971 02:05:20,950 --> 02:05:18,560 yeah one of these days though he's gonna 2972 02:05:23,990 --> 02:05:20,960 be missing one and 2973 02:05:27,589 --> 02:05:24,000 it's going to show up here but yeah yeah 2974 02:05:30,310 --> 02:05:27,599 eddie he's the one man i did uh uh 2975 02:05:31,510 --> 02:05:30,320 i did a a couple of lists that i posted 2976 02:05:34,069 --> 02:05:31,520 up on the net 2977 02:05:35,350 --> 02:05:34,079 a few months ago and i and i did it i 2978 02:05:37,270 --> 02:05:35,360 did like uh the most 2979 02:05:39,990 --> 02:05:37,280 overrated guitar players of all time 2980 02:05:42,709 --> 02:05:40,000 right busted out that list 2981 02:05:43,189 --> 02:05:42,719 and i busted out you know the the uh you 2982 02:05:45,109 --> 02:05:43,199 know the 2983 02:05:46,830 --> 02:05:45,119 the greatest uh guitar players of all 2984 02:05:50,149 --> 02:05:46,840 time and i did it 2985 02:05:52,229 --> 02:05:50,159 because i didn't want i'm tired of 2986 02:05:54,390 --> 02:05:52,239 coronavirus i'm tired of politics i'm 2987 02:05:56,069 --> 02:05:54,400 tired of the divisiveness 2988 02:05:57,910 --> 02:05:56,079 uh you know that's going on in social 2989 02:06:00,629 --> 02:05:57,920 media but let me tell you something 2990 02:06:03,430 --> 02:06:00,639 you really want to start a fight post 2991 02:06:06,790 --> 02:06:03,440 that list 2992 02:06:09,270 --> 02:06:06,800 oh man oh geez i'm not following you 2993 02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:09,280 anymore i'm done with your show 2994 02:06:13,990 --> 02:06:11,920 is it was eric clapton on that list eric 2995 02:06:15,270 --> 02:06:14,000 clapton was my number one overrated 2996 02:06:18,790 --> 02:06:15,280 guitar player 2997 02:06:21,990 --> 02:06:18,800 all right oh 2998 02:06:23,270 --> 02:06:22,000 man and uh it was it was really funny 2999 02:06:25,910 --> 02:06:23,280 got a lot of people to 3000 02:06:27,109 --> 02:06:25,920 you know that understood what i was 3001 02:06:28,830 --> 02:06:27,119 trying to say 3002 02:06:31,430 --> 02:06:28,840 you can't take anything away from 3003 02:06:34,310 --> 02:06:31,440 clapton but 3004 02:06:35,990 --> 02:06:34,320 overrated yeah i'm i'm good i'm going to 3005 02:06:40,870 --> 02:06:36,000 put them up there you know 3006 02:06:45,510 --> 02:06:43,350 all right now uh next this is fade to 3007 02:06:48,069 --> 02:06:45,520 black seven four seven two two eight two 3008 02:06:48,709 --> 02:06:48,079 zero five one i've opened up the phone 3009 02:06:50,870 --> 02:06:48,719 lines 3010 02:06:53,589 --> 02:06:50,880 this is fade to black i've got to uh ask 3011 02:06:57,270 --> 02:06:53,599 you a a couple of questions one 3012 02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:57,280 have you ever seen a ufo no but i would 3013 02:07:02,550 --> 02:06:58,560 love to 3014 02:07:04,550 --> 02:07:02,560 i i want it to be true so so bad 3015 02:07:07,750 --> 02:07:04,560 well yeah i mean the universe is a big 3016 02:07:11,430 --> 02:07:07,760 place right we can't be alone can we 3017 02:07:11,990 --> 02:07:11,440 yeah and i if if the human race is gonna 3018 02:07:15,990 --> 02:07:12,000 get wiped 3019 02:07:19,109 --> 02:07:16,000 by an alien race that's the coolest way 3020 02:07:26,390 --> 02:07:23,189 well if they were if they were intending 3021 02:07:28,790 --> 02:07:26,400 on on bad stuff i think we would have as 3022 02:07:31,910 --> 02:07:28,800 you know we would have seen that already 3023 02:07:35,189 --> 02:07:31,920 right you know um but uh have you been 3024 02:07:37,430 --> 02:07:35,199 following uh the news 3025 02:07:39,669 --> 02:07:37,440 lately you know you got tucker carlson 3026 02:07:41,189 --> 02:07:39,679 on fox talking about ufos every night 3027 02:07:44,390 --> 02:07:41,199 now 3028 02:07:45,430 --> 02:07:44,400 and the navy videos have you have you 3029 02:07:47,430 --> 02:07:45,440 seen those 3030 02:07:48,470 --> 02:07:47,440 uh the videos showing these strange 3031 02:07:50,629 --> 02:07:48,480 objects 3032 02:07:51,990 --> 02:07:50,639 yeah a friend of mine who's a big fan of 3033 02:07:55,669 --> 02:07:52,000 yours actually 3034 02:07:59,109 --> 02:07:55,679 uh he is all into the ufo thing and 3035 02:08:01,830 --> 02:07:59,119 he's constantly showing me uh videos uh 3036 02:08:03,109 --> 02:08:01,840 from yeah navy clips of the the spheres 3037 02:08:04,790 --> 02:08:03,119 in the sky or 3038 02:08:06,950 --> 02:08:04,800 just anything related to that he's 3039 02:08:09,990 --> 02:08:06,960 always he's always keeping me abreast 3040 02:08:11,430 --> 02:08:10,000 do you think that the the pentagon or 3041 02:08:14,950 --> 02:08:11,440 washington 3042 02:08:17,109 --> 02:08:14,960 is is on the verge of 3043 02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:17,119 you know some announcement do you do you 3044 02:08:22,310 --> 02:08:19,360 feel that because the media is talking 3045 02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:22,320 it used to be will and you know any time 3046 02:08:26,709 --> 02:08:24,400 they would talk about a ufo sighting 3047 02:08:28,229 --> 02:08:26,719 they would cue up the x-files music and 3048 02:08:30,950 --> 02:08:28,239 then crack a joke 3049 02:08:32,870 --> 02:08:30,960 yeah right it doesn't seem that way now 3050 02:08:35,669 --> 02:08:32,880 does it 3051 02:08:37,030 --> 02:08:35,679 no and it would be a it'd be strange 3052 02:08:39,109 --> 02:08:37,040 timing to 3053 02:08:40,310 --> 02:08:39,119 to start divulging information about 3054 02:08:43,510 --> 02:08:40,320 what's really going on 3055 02:08:45,910 --> 02:08:43,520 with with ufos uh maybe it'd be like 3056 02:08:48,069 --> 02:08:45,920 some kind of distraction for us 3057 02:08:50,149 --> 02:08:48,079 to forget our woes and just be focused 3058 02:08:50,790 --> 02:08:50,159 on it but it'd be strange timing if they 3059 02:08:53,109 --> 02:08:50,800 did come 3060 02:08:54,149 --> 02:08:53,119 forward right now to say something i 3061 02:08:56,069 --> 02:08:54,159 know right 3062 02:08:57,270 --> 02:08:56,079 and it's it's very interesting to me 3063 02:09:01,030 --> 02:08:57,280 that you 3064 02:09:04,390 --> 02:09:01,040 are saying that because you haven't seen 3065 02:09:06,790 --> 02:09:04,400 a ufo yourself but you do uh 3066 02:09:09,350 --> 02:09:06,800 realize and understand that it seems 3067 02:09:10,390 --> 02:09:09,360 strange that this ufo conversation is 3068 02:09:13,750 --> 02:09:10,400 happening 3069 02:09:16,470 --> 02:09:13,760 during this worldwide crisis right 3070 02:09:18,069 --> 02:09:16,480 is it a distraction or or is there 3071 02:09:21,669 --> 02:09:18,079 something else maybe going on 3072 02:09:25,109 --> 02:09:21,679 that they could announce this ufo stuff 3073 02:09:28,310 --> 02:09:25,119 and it kind of gets lost in the chatter 3074 02:09:28,870 --> 02:09:28,320 of coronavirus or the economy because if 3075 02:09:31,910 --> 02:09:28,880 they would have 3076 02:09:34,149 --> 02:09:31,920 announced this last year no coronavirus 3077 02:09:37,750 --> 02:09:34,159 no economy then the ufo news 3078 02:09:41,270 --> 02:09:37,760 is like big news right right 3079 02:09:43,589 --> 02:09:41,280 right very strange observation from you 3080 02:09:44,470 --> 02:09:43,599 very strange because i talk about this 3081 02:09:47,270 --> 02:09:44,480 all the time 3082 02:09:47,910 --> 02:09:47,280 and i think i think that may be what's 3083 02:09:50,310 --> 02:09:47,920 going on 3084 02:09:51,589 --> 02:09:50,320 i don't understand it it's very strong 3085 02:09:56,229 --> 02:09:51,599 i'm happy 3086 02:10:00,229 --> 02:09:56,239 it's the timing of it 3087 02:10:01,350 --> 02:10:00,239 you know it also makes me feel um let me 3088 02:10:03,030 --> 02:10:01,360 ask you this 3089 02:10:06,069 --> 02:10:03,040 do you think that the government knows 3090 02:10:08,149 --> 02:10:06,079 that something may be about to happen 3091 02:10:09,430 --> 02:10:08,159 with ufos and and that's why they're 3092 02:10:11,189 --> 02:10:09,440 discussing it now 3093 02:10:12,790 --> 02:10:11,199 to kind of soften the blow when 3094 02:10:16,870 --> 02:10:12,800 something big happens 3095 02:10:21,350 --> 02:10:20,229 this is all preparation you feel that 3096 02:10:25,430 --> 02:10:21,360 way don't you 3097 02:10:28,790 --> 02:10:25,440 yeah the um uh the conversations 3098 02:10:31,830 --> 02:10:28,800 out there when it comes to ufos um 3099 02:10:32,790 --> 02:10:31,840 it seems like people are talking about 3100 02:10:35,350 --> 02:10:32,800 it that you would never 3101 02:10:37,030 --> 02:10:35,360 expect you know for them to even know 3102 02:10:39,189 --> 02:10:37,040 what ufos are 3103 02:10:41,430 --> 02:10:39,199 but suddenly it's like okay to talk 3104 02:10:43,350 --> 02:10:41,440 about and nobody's gonna tease you about 3105 02:10:46,229 --> 02:10:43,360 it 3106 02:10:47,109 --> 02:10:46,239 right i mean whether those guys got 3107 02:10:49,109 --> 02:10:47,119 abducted for that 3108 02:10:51,750 --> 02:10:49,119 what's that movie that the guys go 3109 02:10:55,189 --> 02:10:53,109 you have to know the name of that movie 3110 02:10:57,109 --> 02:10:55,199 uh came out in the 90s 3111 02:10:58,550 --> 02:10:57,119 is it based on a true story about the 3112 02:11:02,069 --> 02:10:58,560 four guys camping 3113 02:11:04,470 --> 02:11:02,079 and they all got abducted by a ufo and 3114 02:11:06,069 --> 02:11:04,480 got probed and got returned to their 3115 02:11:07,350 --> 02:11:06,079 campsite and they all have the same 3116 02:11:09,910 --> 02:11:07,360 dreams do you remember this 3117 02:11:11,109 --> 02:11:09,920 this story yeah that was that was my 3118 02:11:13,270 --> 02:11:11,119 story 3119 02:11:14,709 --> 02:11:13,280 i was young i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm 3120 02:11:19,350 --> 02:11:14,719 kidding 3121 02:11:22,229 --> 02:11:19,360 there's a lot of uh 3122 02:11:24,390 --> 02:11:22,239 events like this in the past uh you know 3123 02:11:26,550 --> 02:11:24,400 like travis walton uh 3124 02:11:27,510 --> 02:11:26,560 fire in the sky you've probably seen 3125 02:11:31,030 --> 02:11:27,520 that maybe 3126 02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:31,040 um where uh that was always 3127 02:11:35,350 --> 02:11:33,520 kept on the fringe right it was always 3128 02:11:37,189 --> 02:11:35,360 out there on the side it was never 3129 02:11:39,109 --> 02:11:37,199 mainstream 3130 02:11:42,229 --> 02:11:39,119 you know what i mean but today it's like 3131 02:11:43,990 --> 02:11:42,239 the hip fresh thing to talk about 3132 02:11:46,709 --> 02:11:44,000 well we gotta talk about something else 3133 02:11:48,790 --> 02:11:46,719 besides uh people dying everywhere so 3134 02:11:51,109 --> 02:11:48,800 that's right now what about now what 3135 02:11:55,189 --> 02:11:51,119 about ghosts 3136 02:11:57,910 --> 02:11:55,199 i've never seen a ghost either and uh 3137 02:11:59,669 --> 02:11:57,920 yeah i've never felt any kind of uh 3138 02:12:01,350 --> 02:11:59,679 presence ever in a room 3139 02:12:03,830 --> 02:12:01,360 even when other people say they feel it 3140 02:12:05,030 --> 02:12:03,840 i just i'm immune to it but uh 3141 02:12:07,030 --> 02:12:05,040 it doesn't mean i don't believe in 3142 02:12:08,870 --> 02:12:07,040 ghosts but i just i've never seen one 3143 02:12:10,470 --> 02:12:08,880 when it comes to the paranormal and 3144 02:12:12,390 --> 02:12:10,480 supernatural 3145 02:12:14,470 --> 02:12:12,400 um and you hear people have these 3146 02:12:15,430 --> 02:12:14,480 conversations and it could be life after 3147 02:12:17,990 --> 02:12:15,440 death or ghost 3148 02:12:20,149 --> 02:12:18,000 or or things but now that you've gone 3149 02:12:23,669 --> 02:12:20,159 through your experience 3150 02:12:26,709 --> 02:12:23,679 and and seen and felt what you 3151 02:12:28,790 --> 02:12:26,719 you know have gone through what what's 3152 02:12:30,470 --> 02:12:28,800 your perception now and how do you 3153 02:12:33,750 --> 02:12:30,480 how do you have those conversations with 3154 02:12:38,229 --> 02:12:33,760 people with regards to life after death 3155 02:12:41,430 --> 02:12:40,149 who i i haven't had that conversation 3156 02:12:43,589 --> 02:12:41,440 with anybody yet i 3157 02:12:45,830 --> 02:12:43,599 don't i don't leave my house very much 3158 02:12:49,030 --> 02:12:45,840 i'm scared to death to go outside 3159 02:12:52,229 --> 02:12:49,040 for obvious reasons but uh 3160 02:12:54,069 --> 02:12:52,239 i do believe in it now um i never even 3161 02:12:55,589 --> 02:12:54,079 considered it before and i'd 3162 02:12:57,990 --> 02:12:55,599 i just never even thought about it 3163 02:12:59,109 --> 02:12:58,000 before and when people would tell their 3164 02:13:01,030 --> 02:12:59,119 stories on 3165 02:13:02,149 --> 02:13:01,040 on shows like unsolved mysteries or 3166 02:13:05,910 --> 02:13:02,159 whatever i would 3167 02:13:09,669 --> 02:13:05,920 kind of kind of take it in a 3168 02:13:10,629 --> 02:13:09,679 sarcastic way so now i take it much more 3169 02:13:13,430 --> 02:13:10,639 serious and 3170 02:13:14,310 --> 02:13:13,440 when those stories do come on i pay much 3171 02:13:15,910 --> 02:13:14,320 more attention 3172 02:13:17,830 --> 02:13:15,920 and it kind of freaks me out because a 3173 02:13:21,350 --> 02:13:17,840 lot a lot of similarities 3174 02:13:23,270 --> 02:13:21,360 and their stories to my stories and uh 3175 02:13:24,870 --> 02:13:23,280 i just never even noticed anything like 3176 02:13:25,910 --> 02:13:24,880 that before we wasn't even paying 3177 02:13:28,629 --> 02:13:25,920 attention to it 3178 02:13:29,189 --> 02:13:28,639 and now my my world has opened up to it 3179 02:13:31,189 --> 02:13:29,199 and 3180 02:13:32,870 --> 02:13:31,199 it's kind of kind of scary when 3181 02:13:34,149 --> 02:13:32,880 someone's telling almost the exact same 3182 02:13:35,990 --> 02:13:34,159 story as mine 3183 02:13:37,270 --> 02:13:36,000 on a random show you know someone i've 3184 02:13:39,669 --> 02:13:37,280 never met so 3185 02:13:40,390 --> 02:13:39,679 it happens to a lot of people out there 3186 02:13:42,790 --> 02:13:40,400 and uh 3187 02:13:44,069 --> 02:13:42,800 i definitely believe it happened to me 3188 02:13:47,350 --> 02:13:44,079 and uh 3189 02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:47,360 yeah now uh do you watch 3190 02:13:51,030 --> 02:13:50,320 history channel do you watch ancient 3191 02:13:54,550 --> 02:13:51,040 aliens 3192 02:13:56,870 --> 02:13:54,560 hanger one i do you do 3193 02:13:58,870 --> 02:13:56,880 what do you think of hanger one i 3194 02:14:00,870 --> 02:13:58,880 haven't watched hanger one but i watched 3195 02:14:02,790 --> 02:14:00,880 all of ancient aliens i love ancient 3196 02:14:04,470 --> 02:14:02,800 aliens yeah that's a great show hanger 3197 02:14:07,109 --> 02:14:04,480 one was my show 3198 02:14:08,470 --> 02:14:07,119 just to just just thank you for that for 3199 02:14:11,430 --> 02:14:08,480 not seeing it that's great 3200 02:14:13,270 --> 02:14:11,440 oh i'm sorry i'm just i set you up for 3201 02:14:13,830 --> 02:14:13,280 that let's uh let's take some phone 3202 02:14:16,069 --> 02:14:13,840 calls 3203 02:14:17,589 --> 02:14:16,079 you ready all right all right let's do 3204 02:14:20,790 --> 02:14:17,599 this hi you're live on fade to black 3205 02:14:25,030 --> 02:14:24,229 oh man hang on will i gotta click a 3206 02:14:28,870 --> 02:14:25,040 button 3207 02:14:32,790 --> 02:14:30,870 oh man hi you're live i'm paid to block 3208 02:14:35,510 --> 02:14:32,800 who's calling 3209 02:14:37,270 --> 02:14:35,520 hi chip step from sacramento hi deb we 3210 02:14:38,830 --> 02:14:37,280 were just talking about modesto and 3211 02:14:41,910 --> 02:14:38,840 sacramento being 3212 02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:41,920 hell i was gonna well i have a fun 3213 02:14:45,830 --> 02:14:43,840 question in a serious one hi will thank 3214 02:14:47,669 --> 02:14:45,840 you so much for coming on the show 3215 02:14:49,350 --> 02:14:47,679 and god bless you for making it through 3216 02:14:52,950 --> 02:14:49,360 this journey 3217 02:14:54,310 --> 02:14:52,960 thank you wow well my fun question was 3218 02:14:57,270 --> 02:14:54,320 was it hot in hell 3219 02:14:57,750 --> 02:14:57,280 could you feel how i wore it wasn't hot 3220 02:15:03,189 --> 02:14:57,760 yes 3221 02:15:06,870 --> 02:15:03,199 way around it was hard to breathe 3222 02:15:07,990 --> 02:15:06,880 um the air was thick and yeah it was 3223 02:15:10,790 --> 02:15:08,000 very hot and 3224 02:15:12,149 --> 02:15:10,800 it was exact exactly how the bible kind 3225 02:15:14,950 --> 02:15:12,159 of depicts it like 3226 02:15:15,589 --> 02:15:14,960 just heat and flames and darkness and 3227 02:15:18,870 --> 02:15:15,599 shadow 3228 02:15:21,270 --> 02:15:18,880 and this fun place 3229 02:15:23,270 --> 02:15:21,280 yeah okay and my serious question is 3230 02:15:26,229 --> 02:15:23,280 after this experience that you've come 3231 02:15:30,069 --> 02:15:26,239 through do you feel a connection to god 3232 02:15:34,470 --> 02:15:32,629 uh i definitely think about death a lot 3233 02:15:37,109 --> 02:15:34,480 more 3234 02:15:39,430 --> 02:15:37,119 i had a little post-traumatic spell 3235 02:15:41,669 --> 02:15:39,440 after i got out of the hospital 3236 02:15:43,750 --> 02:15:41,679 and uh it was kind of rough and it 3237 02:15:46,790 --> 02:15:43,760 lasted a few weeks i was in 3238 02:15:49,350 --> 02:15:46,800 a bit of depression so i 3239 02:15:50,790 --> 02:15:49,360 definitely think about death more and 3240 02:15:54,069 --> 02:15:50,800 consider it more 3241 02:15:57,430 --> 02:15:54,079 uh i think about life more uh as well 3242 02:16:00,550 --> 02:15:57,440 um as far as being connected to god 3243 02:16:04,550 --> 02:16:00,560 um i wouldn't say i'm connected to him 3244 02:16:08,149 --> 02:16:04,560 but i take him more seriously now and 3245 02:16:09,350 --> 02:16:08,159 um i i wouldn't dare mock him like i 3246 02:16:10,790 --> 02:16:09,360 used to 3247 02:16:13,030 --> 02:16:10,800 are you going to are you going to be 3248 02:16:16,149 --> 02:16:13,040 going to church on sundays now 3249 02:16:17,109 --> 02:16:16,159 no okay he's at church tonight he's a 3250 02:16:20,310 --> 02:16:17,119 jimmy church 3251 02:16:21,830 --> 02:16:20,320 that counts yeah there you go well bless 3252 02:16:23,990 --> 02:16:21,840 you well thank you so much 3253 02:16:26,069 --> 02:16:24,000 and uh nothing but good thoughts for you 3254 02:16:29,910 --> 02:16:26,079 as you continue on this journey 3255 02:16:31,910 --> 02:16:29,920 okay thank you so much thank you 3256 02:16:33,190 --> 02:16:31,920 have a great night go back to me go back 3257 02:16:37,030 --> 02:16:33,200 late happy 3258 02:16:41,589 --> 02:16:37,040 go back please happy right on and uh 3259 02:16:44,629 --> 02:16:41,599 and speaking about that uh when 3260 02:16:48,230 --> 02:16:44,639 when we talk about religion now 3261 02:16:50,629 --> 02:16:48,240 there is there's the light in the dark 3262 02:16:52,150 --> 02:16:50,639 and all of that is fine whatever 3263 02:16:56,309 --> 02:16:52,160 people's beliefs are 3264 02:16:59,750 --> 02:16:56,319 but around the world will we've got 3265 02:17:05,349 --> 02:16:59,760 so many different religions and they all 3266 02:17:11,429 --> 02:17:08,870 uh i think like whoever 3267 02:17:13,429 --> 02:17:11,439 whatever god you want to pray to and 3268 02:17:16,709 --> 02:17:13,439 whatever you call religion 3269 02:17:19,429 --> 02:17:16,719 is every human being's right and 3270 02:17:20,950 --> 02:17:19,439 uh everyone i think all religions are 3271 02:17:22,309 --> 02:17:20,960 right as long if you believe in it and 3272 02:17:25,270 --> 02:17:22,319 it's a positive 3273 02:17:25,990 --> 02:17:25,280 uh positive part of your of your of your 3274 02:17:28,629 --> 02:17:26,000 life 3275 02:17:30,709 --> 02:17:28,639 then there's nothing wrong with it and 3276 02:17:32,629 --> 02:17:30,719 no matter what god you pray to 3277 02:17:34,549 --> 02:17:32,639 that they're all good to me as long as 3278 02:17:36,709 --> 02:17:34,559 you're not hurting other people and 3279 02:17:37,990 --> 02:17:36,719 forcing it upon other people and 3280 02:17:40,150 --> 02:17:38,000 starting wars over 3281 02:17:41,429 --> 02:17:40,160 unfortunately not everybody lives by 3282 02:17:43,990 --> 02:17:41,439 that code but 3283 02:17:45,910 --> 02:17:44,000 uh i think they're all right yeah you 3284 02:17:47,509 --> 02:17:45,920 can't just say one religion's 3285 02:17:49,830 --> 02:17:47,519 right and they all other all the other 3286 02:17:53,270 --> 02:17:49,840 ones are wrong or vice versa 3287 02:17:55,830 --> 02:17:53,280 so i think they're all right now uh when 3288 02:17:57,669 --> 02:17:55,840 you were in hell right you're on the 3289 02:18:00,950 --> 02:17:57,679 you're on the rocks you can't move 3290 02:18:04,070 --> 02:18:00,960 and you're looking at this female demon 3291 02:18:05,589 --> 02:18:04,080 a representative for satan right or do 3292 02:18:09,669 --> 02:18:05,599 you think you were 3293 02:18:11,990 --> 02:18:09,679 facing the the leader 3294 02:18:13,589 --> 02:18:12,000 the leader of hell i thought i was 3295 02:18:17,509 --> 02:18:13,599 facing the leader for sure 3296 02:18:20,870 --> 02:18:17,519 no kidding yes 3297 02:18:27,830 --> 02:18:24,389 right right in my mind yeah 3298 02:18:28,870 --> 02:18:27,840 now when ho ho ho ho man everybody save 3299 02:18:31,389 --> 02:18:28,880 your email 3300 02:18:32,870 --> 02:18:31,399 send it straight to will at 3301 02:18:38,389 --> 02:18:32,880 deathangel.com 3302 02:18:41,750 --> 02:18:38,399 um now let's go to the heaven side 3303 02:18:45,190 --> 02:18:41,760 did you did you see god 3304 02:18:47,589 --> 02:18:45,200 no you never got that close did you no 3305 02:18:48,950 --> 02:18:47,599 uh as soon as i got there i didn't want 3306 02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:48,960 to be there 3307 02:18:55,190 --> 02:18:52,800 and uh i didn't participate in anything 3308 02:18:58,950 --> 02:18:55,200 that was going on around me the whole 3309 02:19:02,230 --> 02:18:58,960 crazy roman orgy type of scene 3310 02:19:04,709 --> 02:19:02,240 uh i just i stood still and 3311 02:19:07,110 --> 02:19:04,719 i was asking the spirit to please bring 3312 02:19:09,830 --> 02:19:07,120 me back to earth i want to go back home 3313 02:19:12,549 --> 02:19:09,840 i don't want to be here i'm not ready to 3314 02:19:18,309 --> 02:19:16,309 and uh like i said i wasn't up there for 3315 02:19:20,070 --> 02:19:18,319 very long i didn't seem very long 3316 02:19:23,030 --> 02:19:20,080 and i don't remember shooting back to 3317 02:19:26,070 --> 02:19:23,040 earth just uh like in a blink of an eye 3318 02:19:29,669 --> 02:19:26,080 i was in that nightclub well deb asked 3319 02:19:33,190 --> 02:19:29,679 uh deb asked a very direct question 3320 02:19:35,429 --> 02:19:33,200 and i have i've interviewed 3321 02:19:36,230 --> 02:19:35,439 many many people that have gone through 3322 02:19:39,750 --> 02:19:36,240 a near-death 3323 02:19:43,110 --> 02:19:39,760 experience and i would 3324 02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:43,120 say well you know what i don't want to 3325 02:19:49,030 --> 02:19:44,960 ask a leading question 3326 02:19:54,230 --> 02:19:49,040 but deb asked you if you feared death 3327 02:19:57,270 --> 02:19:54,240 right and do you fear death now 3328 02:20:01,349 --> 02:19:57,280 uh i'm not living in fear and uh 3329 02:20:03,990 --> 02:20:01,359 i'm still living my life and you know 3330 02:20:05,910 --> 02:20:04,000 doing the best i can but i think about 3331 02:20:07,030 --> 02:20:05,920 it more yeah i think about mortality a 3332 02:20:09,190 --> 02:20:07,040 lot more 3333 02:20:10,870 --> 02:20:09,200 um i mean i never even thought about it 3334 02:20:13,510 --> 02:20:10,880 at all like i said i just 3335 02:20:14,230 --> 02:20:13,520 i live day by day and i was just living 3336 02:20:17,270 --> 02:20:14,240 for the moment 3337 02:20:18,389 --> 02:20:17,280 constantly and now i'm thinking about a 3338 02:20:20,389 --> 02:20:18,399 year or two years 3339 02:20:22,469 --> 02:20:20,399 five years from now and where i'm going 3340 02:20:26,469 --> 02:20:22,479 to be and what i'm going to be doing and 3341 02:20:28,710 --> 02:20:26,479 hopefully be healthy and 3342 02:20:30,389 --> 02:20:28,720 yeah i just i never considered any of 3343 02:20:32,469 --> 02:20:30,399 these things before so 3344 02:20:33,750 --> 02:20:32,479 i feel like i'm a changed man in that 3345 02:20:36,630 --> 02:20:33,760 aspect 3346 02:20:37,990 --> 02:20:36,640 well so many and this is this is my 3347 02:20:42,070 --> 02:20:38,000 point of view 3348 02:20:44,469 --> 02:20:42,080 that uh we are all concerned 3349 02:20:46,550 --> 02:20:44,479 we enjoy i think most of us enjoy life 3350 02:20:47,429 --> 02:20:46,560 we enjoy being on this planet we enjoy 3351 02:20:49,670 --> 02:20:47,439 what you know you're 3352 02:20:51,990 --> 02:20:49,680 you're you're a drummer and a great man 3353 02:20:52,630 --> 02:20:52,000 i enjoy what i do i don't want this to 3354 02:20:55,190 --> 02:20:52,640 end 3355 02:20:56,790 --> 02:20:55,200 i enjoy my family and my daughters and 3356 02:21:00,070 --> 02:20:56,800 my dogs and 3357 02:21:03,030 --> 02:21:00,080 and my wife and and i love being here 3358 02:21:03,510 --> 02:21:03,040 i don't want to give this up but if i 3359 02:21:06,550 --> 02:21:03,520 know 3360 02:21:08,790 --> 02:21:06,560 that positively for sure because that's 3361 02:21:11,270 --> 02:21:08,800 the great question right what happens 3362 02:21:12,870 --> 02:21:11,280 what happens when we die you know do 3363 02:21:16,150 --> 02:21:12,880 things continue 3364 02:21:19,349 --> 02:21:16,160 well if i know that things 3365 02:21:20,950 --> 02:21:19,359 do continue right that it's not over 3366 02:21:23,510 --> 02:21:20,960 when you die you're just 3367 02:21:24,630 --> 02:21:23,520 going into the next phase of of 3368 02:21:26,150 --> 02:21:24,640 existence 3369 02:21:28,389 --> 02:21:26,160 i think i would be a little bit more 3370 02:21:34,309 --> 02:21:28,399 relaxed about it 3371 02:21:34,319 --> 02:21:38,950 yes 3372 02:21:43,750 --> 02:21:41,110 i mean for example like i mean i got a 3373 02:21:46,790 --> 02:21:43,760 second chance i was brought back to life 3374 02:21:47,670 --> 02:21:46,800 so that's a way of you know everything 3375 02:21:51,030 --> 02:21:47,680 continues on 3376 02:21:52,150 --> 02:21:51,040 in a cycle uh but once i permanently die 3377 02:21:55,349 --> 02:21:52,160 i do think i will 3378 02:21:59,030 --> 02:21:55,359 live on in some some aspect like a 3379 02:22:00,950 --> 02:21:59,040 astral forum or as a gopher i don't know 3380 02:22:02,550 --> 02:22:00,960 you know but i think our essence will 3381 02:22:06,309 --> 02:22:02,560 continue after we die 3382 02:22:09,590 --> 02:22:06,319 did you um uh she she asked actually 3383 02:22:11,429 --> 02:22:09,600 a pretty good question um i want to 3384 02:22:12,389 --> 02:22:11,439 explore a little bit she asked about 3385 02:22:15,030 --> 02:22:12,399 heat 3386 02:22:18,230 --> 02:22:15,040 um i'm going to ask you about smells did 3387 02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:18,240 you smell anything 3388 02:22:23,750 --> 02:22:21,280 i i don't recall yeah 3389 02:22:25,110 --> 02:22:23,760 i don't recall and and what about this 3390 02:22:28,710 --> 02:22:25,120 may seem strange but 3391 02:22:31,349 --> 02:22:28,720 it's honest what about food 3392 02:22:33,190 --> 02:22:31,359 right there is there food in my dreams 3393 02:22:36,309 --> 02:22:33,200 yes 3394 02:22:40,389 --> 02:22:36,319 i think well yeah when i was in heaven 3395 02:22:43,030 --> 02:22:40,399 i was i was surrounded by food 3396 02:22:43,910 --> 02:22:43,040 wine and sex that's what was going on 3397 02:22:46,950 --> 02:22:43,920 around me 3398 02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:46,960 very hedonistic scene uh 3399 02:22:51,910 --> 02:22:50,160 very aggressive and just not what i was 3400 02:22:54,630 --> 02:22:51,920 expecting heaven to be 3401 02:22:55,110 --> 02:22:54,640 i thought it was gonna be serene and it 3402 02:22:58,230 --> 02:22:55,120 was 3403 02:23:00,550 --> 02:22:58,240 huge 3404 02:23:03,190 --> 02:23:00,560 [\h__\h] frat party or something right 3405 02:23:06,309 --> 02:23:03,200 right right right and 3406 02:23:09,429 --> 02:23:06,319 and and i'm trying to i know 3407 02:23:11,429 --> 02:23:09,439 everybody is fixated on a vision here uh 3408 02:23:14,870 --> 02:23:11,439 when they hear you describe this 3409 02:23:18,070 --> 02:23:14,880 are we talking about a hedonistic 3410 02:23:21,750 --> 02:23:18,080 caligula sex scene with angels with 3411 02:23:23,910 --> 02:23:21,760 wings yes no kidding 3412 02:23:27,030 --> 02:23:23,920 yes kind of like the cover of black 3413 02:23:31,030 --> 02:23:27,040 sabbath's heaven in hell 3414 02:23:34,950 --> 02:23:31,040 sure sure or or van halen's 1984 3415 02:23:40,389 --> 02:23:37,830 no kidding and when when you were 3416 02:23:42,150 --> 02:23:40,399 describing the angels flying around you 3417 02:23:44,309 --> 02:23:42,160 this was i mean was it like you know 3418 02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:44,319 with the white flowing robes and 3419 02:23:48,469 --> 02:23:46,960 and large white feathered wings and 3420 02:23:51,830 --> 02:23:48,479 halos 3421 02:23:55,510 --> 02:23:51,840 no they look more like gargoyles like uh 3422 02:23:56,710 --> 02:23:55,520 part man uh are part humanoid part 3423 02:23:59,750 --> 02:23:56,720 gargoyle 3424 02:24:01,830 --> 02:23:59,760 uh they were 3425 02:24:03,190 --> 02:24:01,840 they varied in color some were fleshy 3426 02:24:05,830 --> 02:24:03,200 colored some were 3427 02:24:07,190 --> 02:24:05,840 more gray but they had like really 3428 02:24:09,670 --> 02:24:07,200 hulking 3429 02:24:12,150 --> 02:24:09,680 wings the wings weren't like uh like an 3430 02:24:13,830 --> 02:24:12,160 angel's wings like pretty or fluffy or 3431 02:24:15,670 --> 02:24:13,840 or feathery they were more leathery 3432 02:24:18,230 --> 02:24:15,680 looking and uh 3433 02:24:19,990 --> 02:24:18,240 i was just they were unpleasant they 3434 02:24:22,230 --> 02:24:20,000 were really unpleasant and they were 3435 02:24:23,670 --> 02:24:22,240 flying extremely fast around me like 3436 02:24:25,990 --> 02:24:23,680 zipping around 3437 02:24:26,710 --> 02:24:26,000 and just being really aggressive the 3438 02:24:29,830 --> 02:24:26,720 whole 3439 02:24:32,870 --> 02:24:29,840 aggressive 3440 02:24:34,389 --> 02:24:32,880 do you feel that uh do you feel that 3441 02:24:38,710 --> 02:24:34,399 you're 3442 02:24:41,110 --> 02:24:38,720 discussing something that when you hear 3443 02:24:43,110 --> 02:24:41,120 other people talk about this in the past 3444 02:24:44,710 --> 02:24:43,120 you may have said okay man that person's 3445 02:24:46,230 --> 02:24:44,720 crazy you know that 3446 02:24:47,910 --> 02:24:46,240 that that didn't happen but now you're 3447 02:24:48,389 --> 02:24:47,920 out of the closet you're discussing it 3448 02:24:51,910 --> 02:24:48,399 do you 3449 02:24:53,990 --> 02:24:51,920 feel that you're out in the open now 3450 02:24:55,110 --> 02:24:54,000 oh yeah i mean i read people's comments 3451 02:24:58,870 --> 02:24:55,120 so 3452 02:25:01,190 --> 02:24:58,880 done in the past 3453 02:25:02,790 --> 02:25:01,200 couple months and they're saying the 3454 02:25:05,830 --> 02:25:02,800 exact same things 3455 02:25:08,230 --> 02:25:05,840 i would have said about myself a couple 3456 02:25:09,830 --> 02:25:08,240 like a year ago yeah like like shut the 3457 02:25:10,630 --> 02:25:09,840 [\h__\h] up or excuse me she shut the hell 3458 02:25:12,710 --> 02:25:10,640 up or 3459 02:25:14,070 --> 02:25:12,720 you know this guy's on drugs or whatever 3460 02:25:17,190 --> 02:25:14,080 i would totally 3461 02:25:19,030 --> 02:25:17,200 uh mock him and i i can understand why 3462 02:25:22,070 --> 02:25:19,040 people don't believe my story 3463 02:25:24,150 --> 02:25:22,080 uh and i have nothing to gain by telling 3464 02:25:27,110 --> 02:25:24,160 this story i'm not doing it for 3465 02:25:28,790 --> 02:25:27,120 uh publicity or trying to get promotion 3466 02:25:30,070 --> 02:25:28,800 for death angel this isn't exactly the 3467 02:25:33,429 --> 02:25:30,080 kind of promotion 3468 02:25:37,270 --> 02:25:33,439 death angel would want yeah so right 3469 02:25:37,990 --> 02:25:37,280 right it's just uh it's just something i 3470 02:25:40,150 --> 02:25:38,000 remember 3471 02:25:41,830 --> 02:25:40,160 and i don't know like i said earlier i 3472 02:25:45,349 --> 02:25:41,840 don't know what what happened 3473 02:25:47,030 --> 02:25:45,359 and how real or not it was but i do 3474 02:25:48,309 --> 02:25:47,040 remember it and it's 3475 02:25:49,910 --> 02:25:48,319 it's never going to go away it's going 3476 02:25:51,030 --> 02:25:49,920 to be in my it's going to be burned on 3477 02:25:53,190 --> 02:25:51,040 my brain forever 3478 02:25:55,270 --> 02:25:53,200 oh there's a screenplay coming your way 3479 02:25:57,670 --> 02:25:55,280 hollywood is listening right now 3480 02:25:59,750 --> 02:25:57,680 what's up okay so what's in the future 3481 02:26:00,469 --> 02:25:59,760 are we are we gonna have concerts again 3482 02:26:02,389 --> 02:26:00,479 are you 3483 02:26:04,150 --> 02:26:02,399 you know what's going on with death 3484 02:26:06,469 --> 02:26:04,160 angel touring 3485 02:26:07,670 --> 02:26:06,479 uh new album you know what what are you 3486 02:26:09,590 --> 02:26:07,680 guys working on 3487 02:26:11,830 --> 02:26:09,600 and when are we gonna get back to having 3488 02:26:15,670 --> 02:26:11,840 live concerts again 3489 02:26:17,750 --> 02:26:15,680 uh we are uh working on new songs rob uh 3490 02:26:18,710 --> 02:26:17,760 is sending me he sent me a couple songs 3491 02:26:20,389 --> 02:26:18,720 already 3492 02:26:22,790 --> 02:26:20,399 and i've been jamming on them at my 3493 02:26:26,469 --> 02:26:22,800 studio we all have our own studios 3494 02:26:27,910 --> 02:26:26,479 spread out uh so we're communicating via 3495 02:26:30,630 --> 02:26:27,920 email and sending 3496 02:26:32,790 --> 02:26:30,640 files back and forth via email so we got 3497 02:26:34,790 --> 02:26:32,800 some new songs in the works and uh 3498 02:26:36,150 --> 02:26:34,800 we're gonna move forward on you know 3499 02:26:37,429 --> 02:26:36,160 recording a new album we would have 3500 02:26:40,150 --> 02:26:37,439 liked to have toured 3501 02:26:41,670 --> 02:26:40,160 a lot more for humana side because it's 3502 02:26:42,870 --> 02:26:41,680 not even that old and we've only done 3503 02:26:45,910 --> 02:26:42,880 two tours for it 3504 02:26:48,309 --> 02:26:45,920 one of the us and one of europe uh 3505 02:26:50,309 --> 02:26:48,319 but unfortunately it's just we can't 3506 02:26:53,349 --> 02:26:50,319 wait forever not doing anything 3507 02:26:55,349 --> 02:26:53,359 we can't wait for this uh for touring to 3508 02:26:56,790 --> 02:26:55,359 to commence again i mean who knows when 3509 02:26:57,990 --> 02:26:56,800 that's gonna be i think it's gonna be 3510 02:26:59,910 --> 02:26:58,000 another year 3511 02:27:01,270 --> 02:26:59,920 and a half maybe two years before bands 3512 02:27:04,389 --> 02:27:01,280 start touring again 3513 02:27:06,469 --> 02:27:04,399 normally uh so we gotta do something in 3514 02:27:08,389 --> 02:27:06,479 the meantime so this is a good 3515 02:27:09,670 --> 02:27:08,399 give me a good opportunity to start 3516 02:27:10,870 --> 02:27:09,680 writing music and working on new 3517 02:27:14,230 --> 02:27:10,880 material 3518 02:27:17,270 --> 02:27:14,240 um and yeah i think 3519 02:27:19,590 --> 02:27:17,280 concerts might happen sooner 3520 02:27:21,670 --> 02:27:19,600 than later but as far as bands touring 3521 02:27:24,550 --> 02:27:21,680 and doing a regular tour cycle 3522 02:27:25,429 --> 02:27:24,560 and playing a different city or every 3523 02:27:27,830 --> 02:27:25,439 night you know 3524 02:27:29,190 --> 02:27:27,840 i don't think that's gonna happen for a 3525 02:27:31,429 --> 02:27:29,200 couple of years still 3526 02:27:32,309 --> 02:27:31,439 yeah i know it's crazy how the world has 3527 02:27:35,510 --> 02:27:32,319 changed 3528 02:27:39,270 --> 02:27:35,520 and yeah it happened so fast 3529 02:27:41,429 --> 02:27:39,280 and and i my heart goes out to 3530 02:27:42,550 --> 02:27:41,439 i mean everybody that's affected for uh 3531 02:27:45,990 --> 02:27:42,560 by it but 3532 02:27:49,030 --> 02:27:46,000 uh the concert and touring world 3533 02:27:52,150 --> 02:27:49,040 sound and lights and crew um 3534 02:27:53,750 --> 02:27:52,160 and uh which is you know it's tens of if 3535 02:27:55,030 --> 02:27:53,760 not hundreds of thousands of people 3536 02:27:58,070 --> 02:27:55,040 around the world 3537 02:28:01,110 --> 02:27:58,080 their their careers are on hold 3538 02:28:02,309 --> 02:28:01,120 yeah i mean and people are just 3539 02:28:04,150 --> 02:28:02,319 complaining because they don't have 3540 02:28:05,990 --> 02:28:04,160 concerts to go to and 3541 02:28:07,670 --> 02:28:06,000 and seeing live music and i'm 3542 02:28:09,510 --> 02:28:07,680 complaining too i miss it too 3543 02:28:11,750 --> 02:28:09,520 but you got to think beyond that it's 3544 02:28:14,790 --> 02:28:11,760 really like this 3545 02:28:16,950 --> 02:28:14,800 killed a lot of people's careers or just 3546 02:28:18,950 --> 02:28:16,960 you know like beyond just the musicians 3547 02:28:21,349 --> 02:28:18,960 like yeah all the crew 3548 02:28:22,150 --> 02:28:21,359 and the promoters and just everyone 3549 02:28:24,870 --> 02:28:22,160 involved 3550 02:28:26,630 --> 02:28:24,880 it's so much money lost but it's not 3551 02:28:29,830 --> 02:28:26,640 just about the money obviously just 3552 02:28:30,150 --> 02:28:29,840 our livelihood and uh doing what we love 3553 02:28:33,670 --> 02:28:30,160 and 3554 02:28:36,070 --> 02:28:33,680 to have a job 3555 02:28:37,110 --> 02:28:36,080 that's fun and you know a job we all 3556 02:28:40,710 --> 02:28:37,120 enjoy 3557 02:28:43,910 --> 02:28:40,720 and it's it's gone right now so 3558 02:28:45,349 --> 02:28:43,920 we uh we're suffering uh but we're 3559 02:28:48,790 --> 02:28:45,359 getting through it but 3560 02:28:51,349 --> 02:28:48,800 it uh it sucks yeah it does it does 3561 02:28:52,870 --> 02:28:51,359 and uh i want to thank you for uh taking 3562 02:28:54,950 --> 02:28:52,880 the time tonight to come 3563 02:28:56,309 --> 02:28:54,960 on the show and share all of this with 3564 02:29:00,469 --> 02:28:56,319 us it's just a 3565 02:29:02,389 --> 02:29:00,479 very inspiring inspiring experience and 3566 02:29:03,510 --> 02:29:02,399 and that you uh got through it and 3567 02:29:06,070 --> 02:29:03,520 you're able to 3568 02:29:06,950 --> 02:29:06,080 share it with us and when the album gets 3569 02:29:09,429 --> 02:29:06,960 finished 3570 02:29:11,349 --> 02:29:09,439 let us know we'll get you back on and uh 3571 02:29:12,070 --> 02:29:11,359 we'll talk about that thank you so much 3572 02:29:14,070 --> 02:29:12,080 will 3573 02:29:15,910 --> 02:29:14,080 uh you're welcome i just wanted to plug 3574 02:29:17,670 --> 02:29:15,920 my radio show if i may real quick you've 3575 02:29:21,910 --> 02:29:17,680 got a radio show 3576 02:29:22,309 --> 02:29:21,920 i do i do uh it's a it's a music service 3577 02:29:25,830 --> 02:29:22,319 called 3578 02:29:27,510 --> 02:29:25,840 gimme metal it's a 24-hour free heavy 3579 02:29:29,590 --> 02:29:27,520 metal radio station 3580 02:29:31,349 --> 02:29:29,600 it's a free app you can download it on 3581 02:29:34,550 --> 02:29:31,359 your phone or tablet 3582 02:29:37,590 --> 02:29:34,560 uh it's completely free it's 24 hours 3583 02:29:38,790 --> 02:29:37,600 and there's lots of uh musician dj's 3584 02:29:41,750 --> 02:29:38,800 like myself 3585 02:29:43,030 --> 02:29:41,760 and dave mustain from mega death and 3586 02:29:45,510 --> 02:29:43,040 there's quite a few uh 3587 02:29:46,309 --> 02:29:45,520 different people uh are on there every 3588 02:29:51,510 --> 02:29:46,319 day 3589 02:29:54,910 --> 02:29:51,520 pacific standard time 3590 02:29:58,630 --> 02:29:54,920 the show is called the full metal jacket 3591 02:30:00,309 --> 02:29:58,640 f-o-o-l and uh i try to incorporate 3592 02:30:03,349 --> 02:30:00,319 humor into my show 3593 02:30:05,990 --> 02:30:03,359 and i tell lots of road stories and 3594 02:30:07,750 --> 02:30:06,000 just try to keep it upbeat and play lots 3595 02:30:09,190 --> 02:30:07,760 of different styles of metal not just 3596 02:30:12,389 --> 02:30:09,200 thrash metal 3597 02:30:15,270 --> 02:30:12,399 and hard rock and uh it's a fun show 3598 02:30:15,990 --> 02:30:15,280 so it's not too serious not too heavy 3599 02:30:18,150 --> 02:30:16,000 it's heavy 3600 02:30:19,190 --> 02:30:18,160 the music's heavy but the subject matter 3601 02:30:21,670 --> 02:30:19,200 is usually uh 3602 02:30:23,270 --> 02:30:21,680 on the funny end of things well uh the 3603 02:30:26,550 --> 02:30:23,280 fader knots out there 3604 02:30:26,950 --> 02:30:26,560 uh we'll pop this up in twitter uh do 3605 02:30:29,270 --> 02:30:26,960 that 3606 02:30:30,469 --> 02:30:29,280 so i can retweet it for will i want to 3607 02:30:31,990 --> 02:30:30,479 get it out there 3608 02:30:33,670 --> 02:30:32,000 and i'm gonna go check it out right 3609 02:30:34,870 --> 02:30:33,680 after the show man thank you so much so 3610 02:30:38,230 --> 02:30:34,880 it's mondays at two 3611 02:30:39,910 --> 02:30:38,240 for you yes will you're the best man 3612 02:30:41,030 --> 02:30:39,920 what a great conversation tonight thank 3613 02:30:43,270 --> 02:30:41,040 you so much 3614 02:30:45,349 --> 02:30:43,280 thank you for having me it's the best 3615 02:30:48,150 --> 02:30:45,359 the best the best conversation 3616 02:30:50,070 --> 02:30:48,160 and all of the information oh by the way 3617 02:30:53,110 --> 02:30:50,080 there are some really cool 3618 02:30:55,190 --> 02:30:53,120 uh uh live streaming videos that are up 3619 02:30:57,750 --> 02:30:55,200 uh with the members of death angel 3620 02:30:58,550 --> 02:30:57,760 at death angel dot u s and the links are 3621 02:31:01,670 --> 02:30:58,560 over at 3622 02:31:03,110 --> 02:31:01,680 jimmy 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02:35:38,800 6th through the 8th at the aquarius 3729 02:35:44,389 --> 02:35:41,040 resort in laughlin nevada 3730 02:35:47,750 --> 02:35:44,399 just visit starworksusa.com 3731 02:35:48,710 --> 02:35:47,760 go backly tappy it's not a lifestyle we 3732 02:35:58,630 --> 02:35:48,720 chose 3733 02:35:58,640 --> 02:36:19,429 this is kjcr jimmychurchradio.com 3734 02:36:24,550 --> 02:36:21,670 all right welcome back fade to black i 3735 02:36:26,550 --> 02:36:24,560 am your host jimmy church 3736 02:36:29,990 --> 02:36:26,560 i want to thank will carroll what an 3737 02:36:35,590 --> 02:36:33,990 crazy huh crazy crazy crazy crazy thank 3738 02:36:38,790 --> 02:36:35,600 you will thank you so much 3739 02:36:42,150 --> 02:36:38,800 uh a great drummer great guy great band 3740 02:36:46,389 --> 02:36:42,160 and what an experience i've opened up 3741 02:36:49,670 --> 02:36:46,399 the phone line 747-228-2051 3742 02:36:50,230 --> 02:36:49,680 and i want to uh we can certainly talk 3743 02:36:52,870 --> 02:36:50,240 about will 3744 02:36:53,830 --> 02:36:52,880 and his experiences and and what you 3745 02:36:57,110 --> 02:36:53,840 thought 3746 02:36:59,590 --> 02:36:57,120 what you're thinking that maybe he was 3747 02:37:00,389 --> 02:36:59,600 seeing i was watching some of the 3748 02:37:02,389 --> 02:37:00,399 comments 3749 02:37:03,990 --> 02:37:02,399 in in twitter and i thought it was very 3750 02:37:07,750 --> 02:37:04,000 interesting that 3751 02:37:09,750 --> 02:37:07,760 that maybe uh there was some trickster 3752 02:37:13,510 --> 02:37:09,760 things going on here that 3753 02:37:16,630 --> 02:37:13,520 uh that heaven was actually still hell 3754 02:37:20,910 --> 02:37:16,640 that's uh it's a very interesting take 3755 02:37:22,309 --> 02:37:20,920 very interesting um i was uh 3756 02:37:25,510 --> 02:37:22,319 747-228-2051 3757 02:37:27,110 --> 02:37:25,520 as i was listening to will uh describe 3758 02:37:29,750 --> 02:37:27,120 heaven 3759 02:37:30,469 --> 02:37:29,760 this is what went through my mind it 3760 02:37:32,870 --> 02:37:30,479 wasn't 3761 02:37:34,309 --> 02:37:32,880 a hell aspect at all what i was thinking 3762 02:37:37,510 --> 02:37:34,319 is you know heaven 3763 02:37:41,670 --> 02:37:37,520 is always portrayed as is 3764 02:37:43,830 --> 02:37:41,680 uh uh the 3765 02:37:44,870 --> 02:37:43,840 the best of everything for you you know 3766 02:37:53,429 --> 02:37:44,880 what 3767 02:37:55,510 --> 02:37:53,439 is everything that you know you've 3768 02:37:58,870 --> 02:37:55,520 always wanted to 3769 02:38:01,030 --> 02:37:58,880 experience that's kind of what 3770 02:38:02,230 --> 02:38:01,040 and i'm not talking about the caligula 3771 02:38:06,230 --> 02:38:02,240 thing necessarily 3772 02:38:08,630 --> 02:38:06,240 but it's uh it 3773 02:38:09,349 --> 02:38:08,640 it is and i'm not saying that that is 3774 02:38:11,830 --> 02:38:09,359 what will 3775 02:38:14,230 --> 02:38:11,840 wanted or anything like that but i'm 3776 02:38:18,309 --> 02:38:14,240 saying is it's not necessarily 3777 02:38:21,510 --> 02:38:18,319 uh no crimes are committed or 3778 02:38:25,750 --> 02:38:21,520 how do i say this that it's 3779 02:38:29,510 --> 02:38:25,760 not uh all health food 3780 02:38:33,030 --> 02:38:29,520 and and and we germ 3781 02:38:35,030 --> 02:38:33,040 and uh and uh and 3782 02:38:36,790 --> 02:38:35,040 and unicorns you know it's not 3783 02:38:38,870 --> 02:38:36,800 necessarily that 3784 02:38:40,830 --> 02:38:38,880 uh running around all the time all 3785 02:38:42,150 --> 02:38:40,840 goodness all the time that it's going to 3786 02:38:44,790 --> 02:38:42,160 be uh 3787 02:38:45,670 --> 02:38:44,800 something else all together um i was 3788 02:38:49,270 --> 02:38:45,680 watching 3789 02:38:51,910 --> 02:38:49,280 uh uh good omens 3790 02:38:52,630 --> 02:38:51,920 and there was an element to good omens 3791 02:38:55,830 --> 02:38:52,640 that i thought 3792 02:38:57,030 --> 02:38:55,840 was interesting in the take of uh with 3793 02:39:00,070 --> 02:38:57,040 the angels 3794 02:39:02,950 --> 02:39:00,080 uh there in heaven where there was 3795 02:39:03,830 --> 02:39:02,960 there was a lot of bad language and 3796 02:39:07,830 --> 02:39:03,840 heaven 3797 02:39:12,230 --> 02:39:07,840 wanted the final war 3798 02:39:14,950 --> 02:39:12,240 they wanted a a nuclear exchange 3799 02:39:16,710 --> 02:39:14,960 they wanted this final confrontation 3800 02:39:19,429 --> 02:39:16,720 between good and evil and they 3801 02:39:20,309 --> 02:39:19,439 wanted this battle they wanted 3802 02:39:23,429 --> 02:39:20,319 armageddon they 3803 02:39:26,230 --> 02:39:23,439 wanted they wanted this 3804 02:39:27,990 --> 02:39:26,240 nasty thing and i forget the good 3805 02:39:29,910 --> 02:39:28,000 angel's name 3806 02:39:31,750 --> 02:39:29,920 and he was perplexed he was like wait a 3807 02:39:35,110 --> 02:39:31,760 minute we don't have to do all 3808 02:39:37,750 --> 02:39:35,120 yes we do we've got to go and we've got 3809 02:39:39,429 --> 02:39:37,760 to go and fight and we've got to have 3810 02:39:41,190 --> 02:39:39,439 we've got to have death and we've got to 3811 02:39:42,070 --> 02:39:41,200 have pests we've got to have all of this 3812 02:39:45,110 --> 02:39:42,080 dark 3813 02:39:48,389 --> 02:39:45,120 we've got to have this final battle 3814 02:39:49,990 --> 02:39:48,399 and and it was a negative thing it 3815 02:39:53,830 --> 02:39:50,000 wasn't all 3816 02:39:55,750 --> 02:39:53,840 rainbows 3817 02:39:58,469 --> 02:39:55,760 it definitely wasn't that very 3818 02:40:01,110 --> 02:39:58,479 interesting and listening to will's 3819 02:40:02,070 --> 02:40:01,120 uh experience kind of reminded me of 3820 02:40:05,270 --> 02:40:02,080 good omens 3821 02:40:08,389 --> 02:40:05,280 in a way very strange and 3822 02:40:10,550 --> 02:40:08,399 and and wow wow 3823 02:40:12,309 --> 02:40:10,560 okay so anyway i want to go back uh 3824 02:40:13,269 --> 02:40:12,319 seven four seven two two eight two zero 3825 02:40:15,429 --> 02:40:13,279 five one 3826 02:40:16,950 --> 02:40:15,439 let me make sure that uh the phones are 3827 02:40:18,710 --> 02:40:16,960 on yes they are 3828 02:40:20,710 --> 02:40:18,720 i've got them on now seven four seven 3829 02:40:24,469 --> 02:40:20,720 two two five 3830 02:40:27,510 --> 02:40:24,479 okay i want to go back to my 3831 02:40:29,429 --> 02:40:27,520 uh opening comments about this coronal 3832 02:40:33,030 --> 02:40:29,439 mass ejection 3833 02:40:34,469 --> 02:40:33,040 that is uh supposed to be taking place 3834 02:40:37,030 --> 02:40:34,479 tomorrow 3835 02:40:37,590 --> 02:40:37,040 and again i'm not here to freak anybody 3836 02:40:41,030 --> 02:40:37,600 out i 3837 02:40:44,150 --> 02:40:41,040 i don't i don't want to do that um 3838 02:40:47,590 --> 02:40:44,160 but something like this is one 3839 02:40:50,950 --> 02:40:47,600 of my fears talk about a pandora's box 3840 02:40:53,269 --> 02:40:50,960 all right so i want to repeat uh 3841 02:40:54,790 --> 02:40:53,279 the press release that came out today 3842 02:40:57,269 --> 02:40:54,800 and that is that space 3843 02:40:58,550 --> 02:40:57,279 weather experts are warning that a solar 3844 02:41:02,230 --> 02:40:58,560 storm 3845 02:41:03,510 --> 02:41:02,240 excuse me could strike earth tomorrow 3846 02:41:06,150 --> 02:41:03,520 that is thursday 3847 02:41:07,269 --> 02:41:06,160 tomorrow uh which would mean the 3848 02:41:10,070 --> 02:41:07,279 disruption 3849 02:41:10,870 --> 02:41:10,080 of electrical generation systems the 3850 02:41:14,469 --> 02:41:10,880 grid 3851 02:41:16,950 --> 02:41:14,479 communications and radio 3852 02:41:18,150 --> 02:41:16,960 signals according to space weather 3853 02:41:21,349 --> 02:41:18,160 physicist dr 3854 02:41:24,150 --> 02:41:21,359 tamita skove the sun holds our attention 3855 02:41:27,750 --> 02:41:24,160 this week with multiple bright regions 3856 02:41:30,870 --> 02:41:27,760 flaring and launching solar storms 3857 02:41:33,670 --> 02:41:30,880 predictions from nasa and the national 3858 02:41:34,550 --> 02:41:33,680 oceanic and atmospheric administration 3859 02:41:37,830 --> 02:41:34,560 noaa 3860 02:41:41,910 --> 02:41:37,840 show that a solar storm is expected to 3861 02:41:43,990 --> 02:41:41,920 impact earth by midday tomorrow 3862 02:41:46,150 --> 02:41:44,000 as in thursday now i'm not predicting 3863 02:41:49,990 --> 02:41:46,160 anything they are 3864 02:41:50,550 --> 02:41:50,000 will we come and go tomorrow and not see 3865 02:41:53,910 --> 02:41:50,560 anything 3866 02:41:56,550 --> 02:41:53,920 of course that that is very possible 3867 02:41:57,590 --> 02:41:56,560 um but they're saying midday tomorrow 3868 02:42:00,710 --> 02:41:57,600 thursday 3869 02:42:01,990 --> 02:42:00,720 the storm is caused by a coronal mass 3870 02:42:05,349 --> 02:42:02,000 ejection 3871 02:42:07,110 --> 02:42:05,359 so are you concerned are you worried i 3872 02:42:08,389 --> 02:42:07,120 i think that we should just have the 3873 02:42:12,309 --> 02:42:08,399 lights on and be 3874 02:42:15,349 --> 02:42:12,319 alert um to to something we may see 3875 02:42:15,830 --> 02:42:15,359 disruption in in things i've got a show 3876 02:42:23,510 --> 02:42:15,840 to 3877 02:42:26,389 --> 02:42:23,520 see interference with that 3878 02:42:26,950 --> 02:42:26,399 will we see uh things happen with the 3879 02:42:29,349 --> 02:42:26,960 internet 3880 02:42:30,550 --> 02:42:29,359 are you prepared you know are you 3881 02:42:38,389 --> 02:42:30,560 prepared for 3882 02:42:41,830 --> 02:42:38,399 anything that may happen 747-228-2051 3883 02:42:45,429 --> 02:42:41,840 we have all heard predictions 3884 02:42:46,630 --> 02:42:45,439 of things over the years many many many 3885 02:42:50,070 --> 02:42:46,640 many things 3886 02:42:53,590 --> 02:42:50,080 that have uh uh came and went 3887 02:42:58,150 --> 02:42:53,600 and and nothing nothing resulted from it 3888 02:43:02,150 --> 02:42:58,160 there is another aspect to this where 3889 02:43:06,830 --> 02:43:02,160 i think it takes i think it's 3890 02:43:10,469 --> 02:43:06,840 excuse me let me hit this river moon 3891 02:43:10,479 --> 02:43:14,870 i think it takes eight minutes 3892 02:43:19,190 --> 02:43:16,790 eight minutes somebody just said tesla 3893 02:43:22,950 --> 02:43:19,200 power walls my friend 3894 02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:22,960 uh yeah okay 3895 02:43:33,110 --> 02:43:30,710 something in my throat how long does it 3896 02:43:37,190 --> 02:43:33,120 take a cme to reach earth 3897 02:43:41,990 --> 02:43:37,200 how long does it take 3898 02:43:46,950 --> 02:43:42,000 earth let's see 3899 02:43:53,349 --> 02:43:50,309 how long does it 3900 02:43:58,070 --> 02:43:53,359 take for a cme 3901 02:44:02,230 --> 02:43:58,080 to reach the earth okay oh okay 3902 02:44:05,349 --> 02:44:03,830 i thought it was like eight minutes it's 3903 02:44:08,469 --> 02:44:05,359 15 to 3904 02:44:10,389 --> 02:44:08,479 uh coronal mass ejections yes 3905 02:44:11,910 --> 02:44:10,399 okay boom i thought they traveled at the 3906 02:44:16,150 --> 02:44:11,920 speed of light 3907 02:44:19,429 --> 02:44:16,160 uh 250 000 kilometers per second 3908 02:44:22,550 --> 02:44:19,439 uh three times okay the fast 3909 02:44:25,269 --> 02:44:22,560 detected cme reached earth in as little 3910 02:44:27,910 --> 02:44:25,279 as 15 to 18 hours 3911 02:44:30,309 --> 02:44:27,920 so that's the warning i'm wondering okay 3912 02:44:33,190 --> 02:44:30,319 maybe that's why they're predicting 3913 02:44:35,349 --> 02:44:33,200 uh midday tomorrow thursday there's 3914 02:44:38,630 --> 02:44:35,359 another aspect to this remember 3915 02:44:40,150 --> 02:44:38,640 okay they are able to project the timing 3916 02:44:43,269 --> 02:44:40,160 of this and the direction 3917 02:44:44,230 --> 02:44:43,279 right earth is orbiting the sun ejection 3918 02:44:46,630 --> 02:44:44,240 comes out 3919 02:44:47,910 --> 02:44:46,640 and they're timing this right and so i 3920 02:44:50,469 --> 02:44:47,920 guess that they 3921 02:44:53,110 --> 02:44:50,479 have plotted this out that the current 3922 02:44:56,309 --> 02:44:53,120 cme that has been ejected 3923 02:44:56,790 --> 02:44:56,319 is going to time and we are going to 3924 02:45:00,070 --> 02:44:56,800 cross 3925 02:45:03,030 --> 02:45:00,080 each other's paths very very 3926 02:45:04,630 --> 02:45:03,040 interesting and are you ready let's go 3927 02:45:06,710 --> 02:45:04,640 to the phones hi you're live on fade to 3928 02:45:09,910 --> 02:45:06,720 black who's calling 3929 02:45:13,349 --> 02:45:09,920 what's up jimbo who's this 3930 02:45:14,630 --> 02:45:13,359 scott hey scott how are you i'm doing 3931 02:45:15,349 --> 02:45:14,640 good how are you doing jimmy it's been a 3932 02:45:16,950 --> 02:45:15,359 long time 3933 02:45:18,950 --> 02:45:16,960 what would you think about that rock and 3934 02:45:23,030 --> 02:45:18,960 roll show tonight 3935 02:45:25,590 --> 02:45:23,040 damn bro i mean that really tore me 3936 02:45:26,950 --> 02:45:25,600 you know you gotta go back and i gotta 3937 02:45:28,870 --> 02:45:26,960 say something jim to you 3938 02:45:30,630 --> 02:45:28,880 because you were there you and i 3939 02:45:34,389 --> 02:45:30,640 witnessed this 3940 02:45:37,349 --> 02:45:34,399 and everybody i talked to and uh 3941 02:45:38,790 --> 02:45:37,359 they tell me they remember jimmy church 3942 02:45:39,830 --> 02:45:38,800 you saw everything went down at the 3943 02:45:43,190 --> 02:45:39,840 rainbow 3944 02:45:46,950 --> 02:45:43,200 up on the sunset strip you saw the good 3945 02:45:50,469 --> 02:45:46,960 the bad the evil kim fowley bob ace 3946 02:45:52,950 --> 02:45:50,479 i could go the names could go on forever 3947 02:45:54,469 --> 02:45:52,960 but let me tell you something you didn't 3948 02:45:57,910 --> 02:45:54,479 have a good head on your shoulders you 3949 02:45:57,920 --> 02:46:02,550 yes i agree with that 3950 02:46:07,910 --> 02:46:05,830 oh did i lose you scott no i'm here 3951 02:46:09,349 --> 02:46:07,920 okay getting your feedback getting your 3952 02:46:12,870 --> 02:46:09,359 feedback my brother 3953 02:46:13,910 --> 02:46:12,880 you're getting feedback from me yes you 3954 02:46:15,830 --> 02:46:13,920 were there you were there 3955 02:46:17,190 --> 02:46:15,840 you were there just like i was oh i 3956 02:46:18,870 --> 02:46:17,200 thought you meant feedback in the 3957 02:46:21,750 --> 02:46:18,880 headphones 3958 02:46:22,309 --> 02:46:21,760 no no no you were there you saw all of 3959 02:46:25,269 --> 02:46:22,319 that 3960 02:46:27,349 --> 02:46:25,279 you witnessed everything over there you 3961 02:46:31,349 --> 02:46:27,359 had choices to make 3962 02:46:34,630 --> 02:46:31,359 stay in 3963 02:46:37,429 --> 02:46:34,640 and this this this will god he 3964 02:46:39,349 --> 02:46:37,439 i tell you something we play this stone 3965 02:46:42,230 --> 02:46:39,359 we were up there and you had you 3966 02:46:43,510 --> 02:46:42,240 you witnessed a lot of stuff this guy 3967 02:46:46,790 --> 02:46:43,520 really went through 3968 02:46:48,469 --> 02:46:46,800 everything i truly believe him 3969 02:46:50,150 --> 02:46:48,479 do you believe in his visions that he 3970 02:46:53,190 --> 02:46:50,160 had 3971 02:46:56,150 --> 02:46:53,200 yeah i do i really do there is 3972 02:46:57,110 --> 02:46:56,160 uh i think that all of us and i think 3973 02:47:01,269 --> 02:46:57,120 that will 3974 02:47:04,150 --> 02:47:01,279 um has chosen the path of good right 3975 02:47:05,990 --> 02:47:04,160 and i'm not talking about religious or 3976 02:47:07,750 --> 02:47:06,000 this event of the bible i'm not talking 3977 02:47:10,950 --> 02:47:07,760 about any of that i'm not talking 3978 02:47:12,469 --> 02:47:10,960 about this in a religious context but 3979 02:47:14,309 --> 02:47:12,479 you can tell when somebody is a good 3980 02:47:17,590 --> 02:47:14,319 person and 3981 02:47:21,030 --> 02:47:17,600 i when i went through uh 3982 02:47:24,790 --> 02:47:21,040 the rock and roll era of 3983 02:47:28,389 --> 02:47:24,800 uh the sunset strip from 19 3984 02:47:29,830 --> 02:47:28,399 well from 84 until now but also in my 3985 02:47:32,230 --> 02:47:29,840 life in general 3986 02:47:32,950 --> 02:47:32,240 but there were there were friends of 3987 02:47:35,990 --> 02:47:32,960 mine 3988 02:47:39,670 --> 02:47:36,000 uh around me back then that would go 3989 02:47:42,230 --> 02:47:39,680 church man you know you you 3990 02:47:44,550 --> 02:47:42,240 got to be crazier you're like the camp 3991 02:47:45,190 --> 02:47:44,560 counselor here man you're always telling 3992 02:47:48,150 --> 02:47:45,200 us 3993 02:47:48,870 --> 02:47:48,160 to calm down and to not do this or not 3994 02:47:52,710 --> 02:47:48,880 you know 3995 02:47:55,349 --> 02:47:52,720 and but i was i was that guy 3996 02:47:56,070 --> 02:47:55,359 i was that guy i i was like how are you 3997 02:47:59,190 --> 02:47:56,080 raised jimmy 3998 02:48:00,950 --> 02:47:59,200 i you know now that isn't to say 3999 02:48:02,710 --> 02:48:00,960 and there are people out there that knew 4000 02:48:03,750 --> 02:48:02,720 me back then that are probably listening 4001 02:48:06,630 --> 02:48:03,760 right now going oh 4002 02:48:07,030 --> 02:48:06,640 church you were out of control i was 4003 02:48:10,550 --> 02:48:07,040 there 4004 02:48:12,550 --> 02:48:10,560 i saw well yeah okay i i did i had my 4005 02:48:17,590 --> 02:48:12,560 fun there's no question about it 4006 02:48:20,950 --> 02:48:17,600 but i didn't succumb to 4007 02:48:24,230 --> 02:48:20,960 the bad things i i never fully 4008 02:48:26,790 --> 02:48:24,240 went there i didn't and and i thought i 4009 02:48:28,469 --> 02:48:26,800 saw it going down and i i just i i was 4010 02:48:30,070 --> 02:48:28,479 never that guy 4011 02:48:32,389 --> 02:48:30,080 i was never that and that's probably 4012 02:48:35,670 --> 02:48:32,399 jimmy what saved our souls 4013 02:48:38,630 --> 02:48:35,680 a lot of people sold that out and 4014 02:48:39,030 --> 02:48:38,640 i witnessed so many people just give 4015 02:48:42,309 --> 02:48:39,040 that 4016 02:48:45,349 --> 02:48:42,319 up i i can i won't mention names 4017 02:48:47,349 --> 02:48:45,359 uh somebody from warrant yeah no hold on 4018 02:48:49,590 --> 02:48:47,359 hold on slow down slow down yeah yeah 4019 02:48:50,550 --> 02:48:49,600 yeah yeah we're not going down that road 4020 02:48:52,630 --> 02:48:50,560 but but 4021 02:48:53,750 --> 02:48:52,640 but i'm willing to i'm willing to go 4022 02:48:57,349 --> 02:48:53,760 down this road 4023 02:49:01,110 --> 02:48:57,359 which is when you listened uh to 4024 02:49:03,429 --> 02:49:01,120 will describe uh hell 4025 02:49:04,550 --> 02:49:03,439 okay that was very vivid but his 4026 02:49:07,750 --> 02:49:04,560 description of 4027 02:49:09,750 --> 02:49:07,760 heaven that was pretty interesting 4028 02:49:12,389 --> 02:49:09,760 wasn't it 4029 02:49:13,830 --> 02:49:12,399 yeah i i look at i'm not really sure 4030 02:49:16,150 --> 02:49:13,840 where he went but 4031 02:49:17,590 --> 02:49:16,160 my perception was maybe he thought he 4032 02:49:18,950 --> 02:49:17,600 was going to heaven and maybe these were 4033 02:49:21,429 --> 02:49:18,960 the fallen angels 4034 02:49:23,030 --> 02:49:21,439 trying to trick him from what it's 4035 02:49:24,550 --> 02:49:23,040 perceived in the bible now if you 4036 02:49:27,830 --> 02:49:24,560 believe in the bible 4037 02:49:31,110 --> 02:49:27,840 there is that kind of reaction 4038 02:49:33,429 --> 02:49:31,120 but this is with 4039 02:49:34,550 --> 02:49:33,439 so many different texts written in the 4040 02:49:36,550 --> 02:49:34,560 past 4041 02:49:38,070 --> 02:49:36,560 what is real i i don't really even know 4042 02:49:41,510 --> 02:49:38,080 where to go from there 4043 02:49:44,550 --> 02:49:41,520 i i you know listening to you 4044 02:49:47,269 --> 02:49:44,560 and uh uh 4045 02:49:48,230 --> 02:49:47,279 you're listening to uh basically the 4046 02:49:51,429 --> 02:49:48,240 anunnaki 4047 02:49:54,070 --> 02:49:51,439 and all these other type of 4048 02:49:54,550 --> 02:49:54,080 uh texts that basically twists this 4049 02:49:56,070 --> 02:49:54,560 around 4050 02:49:58,710 --> 02:49:56,080 so much that you don't really know where 4051 02:50:01,830 --> 02:49:58,720 it's going 4052 02:50:06,870 --> 02:50:04,710 well the anonymous says that they 4053 02:50:11,830 --> 02:50:06,880 brought down people here and they were 4054 02:50:15,750 --> 02:50:11,840 our gods correct right 4055 02:50:19,190 --> 02:50:15,760 okay but and you look at the bible 4056 02:50:21,269 --> 02:50:19,200 and then you've got uh the 4057 02:50:23,190 --> 02:50:21,279 uh other which was the other bible that 4058 02:50:25,429 --> 02:50:23,200 was taken out of the bible 4059 02:50:28,389 --> 02:50:25,439 my my mind is flipping me right now are 4060 02:50:31,910 --> 02:50:28,399 you talking about the gnostic text 4061 02:50:34,389 --> 02:50:31,920 yes yes so you put all those together 4062 02:50:36,950 --> 02:50:34,399 it's like somebody's given us only half 4063 02:50:40,070 --> 02:50:36,960 the information 4064 02:50:44,630 --> 02:50:40,080 right right well and then there's 4065 02:50:48,309 --> 02:50:44,640 the the other part of this which again 4066 02:50:48,630 --> 02:50:48,319 uh not religious at all okay which is 4067 02:50:51,750 --> 02:50:48,640 right 4068 02:50:55,510 --> 02:50:51,760 which is that it seems 4069 02:50:56,389 --> 02:50:55,520 that uh especially when we know that his 4070 02:50:59,590 --> 02:50:56,399 heart failed 4071 02:51:00,950 --> 02:50:59,600 right it's yeah he died he died right 4072 02:51:04,710 --> 02:51:00,960 right it seems that 4073 02:51:08,550 --> 02:51:04,720 his description of 4074 02:51:10,870 --> 02:51:08,560 of things is very very similar 4075 02:51:11,830 --> 02:51:10,880 to others that have had near death or 4076 02:51:14,389 --> 02:51:11,840 who have died 4077 02:51:16,070 --> 02:51:14,399 experiences that have been able to come 4078 02:51:19,349 --> 02:51:16,080 back and describe 4079 02:51:22,469 --> 02:51:19,359 you know what uh what they had seen 4080 02:51:25,670 --> 02:51:22,479 but what it says to me is that life 4081 02:51:27,190 --> 02:51:25,680 doesn't end right it doesn't end your 4082 02:51:30,630 --> 02:51:27,200 consciousness 4083 02:51:32,710 --> 02:51:30,640 your soul it continues 4084 02:51:33,830 --> 02:51:32,720 you know that there is another dimension 4085 02:51:37,190 --> 02:51:33,840 out there there 4086 02:51:41,750 --> 02:51:37,200 is another world there is something 4087 02:51:44,550 --> 02:51:41,760 else uh that that exists that is real 4088 02:51:45,110 --> 02:51:44,560 after right after after you die and when 4089 02:51:47,269 --> 02:51:45,120 you die 4090 02:51:48,710 --> 02:51:47,279 right the book of the book of enoch the 4091 02:51:50,150 --> 02:51:48,720 bible they all say that they all 4092 02:51:52,870 --> 02:51:50,160 describe that 4093 02:51:55,110 --> 02:51:52,880 this is not the death is not the ending 4094 02:51:57,190 --> 02:51:55,120 yeah but i'm not talking about the bible 4095 02:51:58,950 --> 02:51:57,200 i'm not talking about the bible at all 4096 02:52:01,910 --> 02:51:58,960 i'm not talking about the bible 4097 02:52:02,309 --> 02:52:01,920 i'm talking about people's experiences 4098 02:52:05,030 --> 02:52:02,319 yeah 4099 02:52:05,910 --> 02:52:05,040 including including my own including my 4100 02:52:07,429 --> 02:52:05,920 own 4101 02:52:09,349 --> 02:52:07,439 you know i what are you saying you 4102 02:52:12,630 --> 02:52:09,359 almost died i uh 4103 02:52:15,990 --> 02:52:12,640 i i i went there and 4104 02:52:18,870 --> 02:52:16,000 really yeah and uh 4105 02:52:20,389 --> 02:52:18,880 i was in the hospital for for for quite 4106 02:52:23,670 --> 02:52:20,399 a long time for a few weeks 4107 02:52:26,870 --> 02:52:23,680 almost a month um but my first 4108 02:52:28,389 --> 02:52:26,880 four days there um i wasn't in a 4109 02:52:31,670 --> 02:52:28,399 medically induced coma 4110 02:52:34,790 --> 02:52:31,680 i was just in a coma and 4111 02:52:37,510 --> 02:52:34,800 i uh i it was 4112 02:52:38,710 --> 02:52:37,520 it was a very strange experience for me 4113 02:52:42,070 --> 02:52:38,720 in that 4114 02:52:45,110 --> 02:52:42,080 dream i did the the entire time 4115 02:52:46,469 --> 02:52:45,120 and mine were i've told this story 4116 02:52:49,590 --> 02:52:46,479 before but 4117 02:52:52,389 --> 02:52:49,600 but i i 4118 02:52:54,070 --> 02:52:52,399 sat at it was black it was all black 4119 02:52:55,510 --> 02:52:54,080 everything was black there was no light 4120 02:52:59,349 --> 02:52:55,520 it was all black 4121 02:53:02,389 --> 02:52:59,359 um and i was sat at a table 4122 02:53:05,349 --> 02:53:02,399 um i don't think it was a desk it was i 4123 02:53:06,710 --> 02:53:05,359 you know my it seemed like a folding 4124 02:53:09,269 --> 02:53:06,720 card table 4125 02:53:10,070 --> 02:53:09,279 right like so like a car table and a 4126 02:53:14,070 --> 02:53:10,080 chair 4127 02:53:17,429 --> 02:53:14,080 and i had sheet music and a pen 4128 02:53:19,910 --> 02:53:17,439 a pencil and i wrote 4129 02:53:21,030 --> 02:53:19,920 these symphonies this music this 4130 02:53:22,790 --> 02:53:21,040 elaborate 4131 02:53:24,150 --> 02:53:22,800 stuff and i just sat there and i could 4132 02:53:26,870 --> 02:53:24,160 hear it 4133 02:53:27,670 --> 02:53:26,880 and i could write it out and and i did 4134 02:53:31,670 --> 02:53:27,680 that 4135 02:53:34,870 --> 02:53:31,680 the entire time and it was awesome 4136 02:53:37,349 --> 02:53:34,880 i had the best time i was in a happy 4137 02:53:40,710 --> 02:53:37,359 place that i cannot describe 4138 02:53:42,710 --> 02:53:40,720 and what happened to me was uh 4139 02:53:43,830 --> 02:53:42,720 i forgot to ask will about this but with 4140 02:53:46,630 --> 02:53:43,840 me 4141 02:53:48,309 --> 02:53:46,640 my eyes i was in the middle of this man 4142 02:53:49,910 --> 02:53:48,319 and it just went on and went on and went 4143 02:53:51,190 --> 02:53:49,920 on and went on and i was happy and it 4144 02:53:54,710 --> 02:53:51,200 was cool 4145 02:53:57,429 --> 02:53:54,720 um but my eyes popped open 4146 02:53:57,990 --> 02:53:57,439 and and i'm in a hospital i don't 4147 02:54:00,870 --> 02:53:58,000 remember 4148 02:54:03,030 --> 02:54:00,880 anything and i'm looking around and i 4149 02:54:05,190 --> 02:54:03,040 see the tv at the foot of the bed 4150 02:54:06,230 --> 02:54:05,200 i've got all these tubes and things in 4151 02:54:09,269 --> 02:54:06,240 me 4152 02:54:11,030 --> 02:54:09,279 and and i look over to my left and 4153 02:54:14,230 --> 02:54:11,040 there's a priest 4154 02:54:16,469 --> 02:54:14,240 a priest black black priest 4155 02:54:17,910 --> 02:54:16,479 with uh with the white collar you know 4156 02:54:22,070 --> 02:54:17,920 he's in the priest 4157 02:54:26,230 --> 02:54:22,080 priestly suit and i look over at him 4158 02:54:30,230 --> 02:54:26,240 and he jumps i i jump he jumps 4159 02:54:35,590 --> 02:54:30,240 and he goes uh oh wow you're awake 4160 02:54:38,950 --> 02:54:35,600 and he grabs a reality 4161 02:54:41,030 --> 02:54:38,960 and he grabs the the the button 4162 02:54:46,070 --> 02:54:41,040 right to call the nurses or the doctors 4163 02:54:51,670 --> 02:54:49,750 what the heck was that uh slashes best 4164 02:54:55,190 --> 02:54:51,680 solo ever 4165 02:54:56,389 --> 02:54:55,200 just popped on okay well anyway over my 4166 02:54:59,429 --> 02:54:56,399 computer network sorry 4167 02:55:02,070 --> 02:54:59,439 okay so anyway uh the nurses uh come 4168 02:55:04,230 --> 02:55:02,080 running in doctors come running in and 4169 02:55:06,070 --> 02:55:04,240 and uh and i'm watching them freak out i 4170 02:55:09,349 --> 02:55:06,080 don't know what's going on 4171 02:55:10,790 --> 02:55:09,359 all i know is i mean i knew i was in a 4172 02:55:14,070 --> 02:55:10,800 high i didn't know why 4173 02:55:16,790 --> 02:55:14,080 i don't i didn't remember anything but i 4174 02:55:17,349 --> 02:55:16,800 wanted to close my eyes and go back to 4175 02:55:20,309 --> 02:55:17,359 where i 4176 02:55:20,870 --> 02:55:20,319 was and i was pissed off about that i 4177 02:55:27,429 --> 02:55:20,880 was 4178 02:55:29,990 --> 02:55:27,439 moment 4179 02:55:30,950 --> 02:55:30,000 that i was in yeah you wanted to stay 4180 02:55:33,750 --> 02:55:30,960 there i 4181 02:55:35,830 --> 02:55:33,760 wanted to go back i was like dorothy man 4182 02:55:38,950 --> 02:55:35,840 i was clicking my heels i'm like 4183 02:55:40,790 --> 02:55:38,960 man yeah yeah that's 4184 02:55:42,790 --> 02:55:40,800 an exciting time it's really exciting 4185 02:55:45,429 --> 02:55:42,800 time so jimmy i'm gonna proposition you 4186 02:55:48,790 --> 02:55:45,439 with something else here 4187 02:55:49,670 --> 02:55:48,800 so the indianapolis 500 is starting up 4188 02:55:52,710 --> 02:55:49,680 pretty soon 4189 02:55:55,990 --> 02:55:52,720 and you're an indie boy right 4190 02:55:58,630 --> 02:55:56,000 so i'm going to offer you 500 4191 02:56:00,469 --> 02:55:58,640 to pick the winner you're gonna offer me 4192 02:56:03,670 --> 02:56:00,479 five hundred dollars to pick 4193 02:56:06,950 --> 02:56:03,680 the winner the winner okay all right 4194 02:56:08,230 --> 02:56:06,960 i'll do it tomorrow on the show 4195 02:56:10,150 --> 02:56:08,240 well you do you know who the starting 4196 02:56:11,750 --> 02:56:10,160 grid is right now uh 4197 02:56:14,150 --> 02:56:11,760 i've got to go back and take a look at 4198 02:56:17,429 --> 02:56:14,160 it i i looked at it 4199 02:56:19,190 --> 02:56:17,439 briefly but uh i got to go back and take 4200 02:56:20,790 --> 02:56:19,200 a look at it 4201 02:56:22,550 --> 02:56:20,800 you picked the winner and i'm going to 4202 02:56:25,429 --> 02:56:22,560 donate 500 to 4203 02:56:26,070 --> 02:56:25,439 fade to black all right fair enough you 4204 02:56:28,710 --> 02:56:26,080 just pick it 4205 02:56:30,630 --> 02:56:28,720 you got it yeah i got a one in 33 chance 4206 02:56:32,950 --> 02:56:30,640 that's those are pretty good odds 4207 02:56:33,910 --> 02:56:32,960 now listen aj foyt is not in the running 4208 02:56:36,870 --> 02:56:33,920 you know that right yeah 4209 02:56:38,630 --> 02:56:36,880 he's i don't i don't think he i don't 4210 02:56:40,230 --> 02:56:38,640 think he's on the grid man i don't think 4211 02:56:43,990 --> 02:56:40,240 he's on the grid 4212 02:56:47,349 --> 02:56:44,000 you know what's funny today today 4213 02:56:51,830 --> 02:56:47,359 uh uh before i hit the break here uh 4214 02:56:55,269 --> 02:56:51,840 uh the end of the show today august 19th 4215 02:56:58,309 --> 02:56:55,279 that was the first running of the 500 4216 02:56:59,990 --> 02:56:58,319 august 19th yeah was it may 31st most 4217 02:57:00,790 --> 02:57:00,000 people think it was always on memorial 4218 02:57:04,630 --> 02:57:00,800 day 4219 02:57:08,150 --> 02:57:04,640 um but no uh uh august 19th 4220 02:57:12,230 --> 02:57:08,160 there you go who won the first 500 4221 02:57:15,670 --> 02:57:13,990 i won't i won't i'm here in my kitchen 4222 02:57:20,830 --> 02:57:15,680 in my shop i'll tell you right now 4223 02:57:23,910 --> 02:57:20,840 my dad who won it ray haroon 4224 02:57:26,710 --> 02:57:23,920 driving driving the marmon 4225 02:57:29,429 --> 02:57:26,720 wasp that was the car the marmon wasp 4226 02:57:32,469 --> 02:57:29,439 who started the milk drinking thing 4227 02:57:36,550 --> 02:57:32,479 uh that happened i want to 4228 02:57:39,590 --> 02:57:36,560 say i'm gonna say that happened 4229 02:57:42,630 --> 02:57:39,600 right before world war ii 4230 02:57:45,269 --> 02:57:42,640 uh yeah i think so i don't think it it 4231 02:57:46,630 --> 02:57:45,279 yeah i'd have to go and and and look 4232 02:57:48,150 --> 02:57:46,640 that up that's a great that 4233 02:57:49,990 --> 02:57:48,160 that's a good piece of trivia right 4234 02:57:53,990 --> 02:57:50,000 there it's easy for 4235 02:57:56,710 --> 02:57:54,000 most indy 500 you know uh historians but 4236 02:57:57,429 --> 02:57:56,720 but that's actually a great question 4237 02:57:59,750 --> 02:57:57,439 okay so 4238 02:58:01,590 --> 02:57:59,760 jimmy just real quick row number one 4239 02:58:04,469 --> 02:58:01,600 marco andretti 4240 02:58:05,830 --> 02:58:04,479 scott dixon and takumo sato yeah i know 4241 02:58:08,469 --> 02:58:05,840 that's tough right there man you could 4242 02:58:09,990 --> 02:58:08,479 do a coin toss 4243 02:58:11,830 --> 02:58:10,000 hey man nice talking to you again i'll 4244 02:58:15,830 --> 02:58:11,840 talk to you scott right on 4245 02:58:17,110 --> 02:58:15,840 peace bye scott the rocker coming in 4246 02:58:20,150 --> 02:58:17,120 strong 4247 02:58:22,870 --> 02:58:20,160 and uh there you go and i 4248 02:58:24,630 --> 02:58:22,880 uh i've got to roll credits i've got 4249 02:58:26,550 --> 02:58:24,640 other calls on hold and everybody that's 4250 02:58:28,630 --> 02:58:26,560 there i apologize for not getting to you 4251 02:58:31,830 --> 02:58:28,640 but i haven't talked to scott in a while 4252 02:58:33,110 --> 02:58:31,840 uh will carol tonight fantastic show 4253 02:58:34,870 --> 02:58:33,120 thank you so much 4254 02:58:36,469 --> 02:58:34,880 and uh tomorrow night i do want to 4255 02:58:37,429 --> 02:58:36,479 remind everybody tomorrow night right 4256 02:58:40,150 --> 02:58:37,439 here 4257 02:58:41,670 --> 02:58:40,160 linda moulton howe what a great 4258 02:58:45,030 --> 02:58:41,680 conversation tonight 4259 02:58:46,429 --> 02:58:45,040 and for everybody you can go over to 4260 02:58:48,630 --> 02:58:46,439 the links are over at 4261 02:58:52,230 --> 02:58:48,640 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